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I have a very strong suspicion of having ADHD and I can tell you that the brain hardware that can tell feelings to fuck off is malfunctioning in ADHD and is fix

I have a very strong suspicion of having ADHD and I can tell you that the brain hardware that can tell feelings to fuck off is malfunctioning in ADHD and is fixed by elevating the levels of norepinephrine. It is literally impossible for me to apply the very concept of discipline otherwise. Yes, this condition is as terrifying as you now imagine it to be.

hirvi74 4y ago
No kidding. I am right there with you. I get that motivation is a fleeting feeling, but what about when discipline and willpower are too? I have succumbed to the idea that I basically just each day of my life like a game of roulette. Am I going to be productive today? Better spin the wheel to find out.
- saulpw 4y ago
  Spent whatever minute amounts of motivation/discipline/willpower on building simple and effective "systems" that require no motivation/discipline/willpower. For example, I want to get better at playing piano, but it's both hard to set aside time, and hard to get myself to sit down for a set amount of time and Do Piano. I tried putting the keyboard in a few places, including directly behind my computer desk (literally 2 feet away from me), but there was too much friction involved in moving my chair and changing the lighting etc--it really wasn't much, probably 15 seconds of effort, but it required deliberate intention. I discovered, though, that if the keyboard is on the landing outside my office with a dedicated chair, then I'll see the setup on my way to/from the kitchen, and it will sometimes feel inviting--often a nice distraction while waiting 10 minutes for a meeting, or while procrastinating on something else I'm trying to get motivated on. And sometimes 10 minutes turns into 30 or who knows how long, and my taxes may be stalled out but I sure am making progress on the fugue I'm learning. Source: diagnosed ADD for 20+ years.
  - skjoldr 4y ago
    Yeah, but this scheme becomes a huge problem with a device like a PC that can do anything while physically being in the same space. The only way to brute force that is to buy separate computers for work, gaming, and creative pursuits. Which is kinda expensive.
    - saulpw 4y ago
      There are tons of different tactics! Be creative. You could: - multiboot: one OS install for work, another OS install for games/other - get a PiHole or modify /etc/hosts to blackhole certain known terrible sites - leave a minor compile error for yourself just before you leave work, so that in the morning you type 'make' and get suckered into fixing the small thing, which gets you into the flow of work the next day (this has worked for me too) Don't give up before you've tried or of course you won't find something that works. You never know whatIt took months to find that the placement for my keyboard works for me. Treat yourself like you would a child that you love, and be patient and persistent as you try to figure out how to set up your/their environment to allow you/them to function better in this weird life you/they have been given.
mrleinad 4y ago
> It is literally impossible for me to apply the very concept of discipline That right there is why I don't like people that jump straight to medical conditions without analyzing other alternatives: unless you get reviewed by an actual physician, diagnosed, and treated, please don't assume and act on what you think might be the problem. Not saying you're 100% wrong, but it's most likely you are. And that might worsen the problem.

hirvi74 4y ago

No kidding. I am right there with you. I get that motivation is a fleeting feeling, but what about when discipline and willpower are too? I have succumbed to the idea that I basically just each day of my life like a game of roulette. Am I going to be productive today? Better spin the wheel to find out.

saulpw 4y ago
Spent whatever minute amounts of motivation/discipline/willpower on building simple and effective "systems" that require no motivation/discipline/willpower. For example, I want to get better at playing piano, but it's both hard to set aside time, and hard to get myself to sit down for a set amount of time and Do Piano. I tried putting the keyboard in a few places, including directly behind my computer desk (literally 2 feet away from me), but there was too much friction involved in moving my chair and changing the lighting etc--it really wasn't much, probably 15 seconds of effort, but it required deliberate intention. I discovered, though, that if the keyboard is on the landing outside my office with a dedicated chair, then I'll see the setup on my way to/from the kitchen, and it will sometimes feel inviting--often a nice distraction while waiting 10 minutes for a meeting, or while procrastinating on something else I'm trying to get motivated on. And sometimes 10 minutes turns into 30 or who knows how long, and my taxes may be stalled out but I sure am making progress on the fugue I'm learning. Source: diagnosed ADD for 20+ years.
- skjoldr 4y ago
  Yeah, but this scheme becomes a huge problem with a device like a PC that can do anything while physically being in the same space. The only way to brute force that is to buy separate computers for work, gaming, and creative pursuits. Which is kinda expensive.
  - saulpw 4y ago
    There are tons of different tactics! Be creative. You could: - multiboot: one OS install for work, another OS install for games/other - get a PiHole or modify /etc/hosts to blackhole certain known terrible sites - leave a minor compile error for yourself just before you leave work, so that in the morning you type 'make' and get suckered into fixing the small thing, which gets you into the flow of work the next day (this has worked for me too) Don't give up before you've tried or of course you won't find something that works. You never know whatIt took months to find that the placement for my keyboard works for me. Treat yourself like you would a child that you love, and be patient and persistent as you try to figure out how to set up your/their environment to allow you/them to function better in this weird life you/they have been given.

mrleinad 4y ago

> It is literally impossible for me to apply the very concept of discipline That right there is why I don't like people that jump straight to medical conditions without analyzing other alternatives: unless you get reviewed by an actual physician, diagnosed, and treated, please don't assume and act on what you think might be the problem. Not saying you're 100% wrong, but it's most likely you are. And that might worsen the problem.