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I still don't really "get" the syllable perspective but it seems like it's just a mapping of one stroke (I think my confusion is what constitutes a "stroke") on

by naner 15y ago

I still don't really "get" the syllable perspective but it seems like it's just a mapping of one stroke (I think my confusion is what constitutes a "stroke") on specialized hardware to several on a qwerty board? As far as I can tell, steno works by mapping a "stroke" (a combination of keys pressed at once -- like a chord on a musical instrument) to a "syllable" which appears to be a chunk of a word for prose but apparently can be any chunk of text for things like programming. I think this is why she recommends a 45$ "gamer's keyboard", most regular keyboards have a limit to the number of simultaneous key presses that will be registered. Also it appears that when using a keyboard for steno you still only use a limited number of keys. From the video it looks like she barely strayed from the home position.

sliverstorm 15y ago
Isn't the standard keyboard simultaneous keypress limit already something like 9 keys though?
- tomku 15y ago
  Keyboard ghosting: https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/AntiGhostingExplained.mspx https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/AntiGhostingExplai... Gaming on a keyboard with severe ghosting problems is infuriating, and I'd imagine that steno would be just as painful.
  - ken 15y ago
    Another description which I found easier to understand: http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/ http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/
- honza 15y ago
  Das Keyboard has unlimited n-key roll-over. Press all keys at once, all register.
- loup-vaillant 15y ago
  6 Keys on USB, if I recall correctly. However, PS2 doesn't limit you at all, and a number of keyboard let you press any number of keys you want. (Typically high-end mechanical keyboards, or gaming keyboards.) A honza mention in his (dead) comment, the technical term is "n-key rollover" where n=6 for USB, and n="n" when it's unlimited.
  - ploversteno 15y ago
    The newer USB keyboards with n-key rollover don't have this limit. I'm able to depress 22 keys at a time on a Sidewinder X4 ($45) or a Filco Majestouch ($120) connected via USB and have them all register perfectly. Yep, the steno layout is only two rows for fingers, one row for thumbs, and one meta-row for numbers. There's very little movement of the hands required, which makes it both ergonomic and efficient. Chords of 1 to 22 keys are mapped to syllables, words, or phrases. It's a lot like playing a piano.

by naner 15y ago

sliverstorm 15y ago

Isn't the standard keyboard simultaneous keypress limit already something like 9 keys though?

tomku 15y ago
Keyboard ghosting: https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/AntiGhostingExplained.mspx https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/AntiGhostingExplai... Gaming on a keyboard with severe ghosting problems is infuriating, and I'd imagine that steno would be just as painful.
- ken 15y ago
  Another description which I found easier to understand: http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/ http://www.dribin.org/dave/keyboard/one_html/
honza 15y ago
Das Keyboard has unlimited n-key roll-over. Press all keys at once, all register.
loup-vaillant 15y ago
6 Keys on USB, if I recall correctly. However, PS2 doesn't limit you at all, and a number of keyboard let you press any number of keys you want. (Typically high-end mechanical keyboards, or gaming keyboards.) A honza mention in his (dead) comment, the technical term is "n-key rollover" where n=6 for USB, and n="n" when it's unlimited.
- ploversteno 15y ago
  The newer USB keyboards with n-key rollover don't have this limit. I'm able to depress 22 keys at a time on a Sidewinder X4 ($45) or a Filco Majestouch ($120) connected via USB and have them all register perfectly. Yep, the steno layout is only two rows for fingers, one row for thumbs, and one meta-row for numbers. There's very little movement of the hands required, which makes it both ergonomic and efficient. Chords of 1 to 22 keys are mapped to syllables, words, or phrases. It's a lot like playing a piano.