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All you do is take one point from each of their accomplishments out of context and refute their entire credibility. Gary Nolan is the one of the premiere immun

All you do is take one point from each of their accomplishments out of context and refute their entire credibility. Gary Nolan is the one of the premiere immunologists and pathologists in the world. He has created multiple multi-million dollar companies. He was asked by the CIA to perform scans on people who had been encountered UAP and had health effects or death. Avi Loeb is a renowned Harvard astrophysicist. Yes, he is studying Oumuamua because it was the first object outside our solar system to come by Earth. It also had an extremely odd shape and a trajectory that does not seem natural. He's simply hypothesized that it could be some kind of ET probing device passing Earth, but he's not definitively said so. All he's saying is no other physicist has come up with a proper explanation for what Oumuamua was, and so he wants to study other interstellar objects that come near by. Eric Davis has been working for DoD for almost 3 decades. He's well known within the defense space to being an incredibly intelligent human being. You can't just take one piece of their history and dismiss their entire credibility. What are your credentials that make you so important to dismiss these people as insane for just studying this phenomenon?

scotty79 4y ago
All of my credentials is that I learned a bit of physics and I read a bit of SF and I can tell one from the other. If it was about existence of leprechauns and effects of meeting them you'd have no problem dismissing it as well regardless of how accomplished people would be interested in the subject. And if it's UFO which has exactly the same amount of confirmed evidence as leprechauns suddenly there's a problem and you need credentials because ufologists made their belief sound sciency. I know that those 3 scientists are accomplished people in their respective, unassociated fields. For various definitions of the word "accomplished". But I'd much rather see a psychiatrist and plane surveillance device constructor/tester and possibly a magician or a con artist investigating those documents coming out of DoD first than three avid ufologists. In my opinion it might be way more productive and brilliant immunologist could stick to doing good work in immunology, astrophysicist could research new insights in astrophysics that is actually very promising field, and ex DoD employee very theoretical physicist might continue his mid life crisis or whatever he's doing. But rest assured, the research is going on. Good news for you: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-try-to-get-serious-about-studying-ufos-good-luck-with-that/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-try-to... I'll just be bitter for the waste of research power for the next few years before it goes away. As it always did. Maybe they'll even get the funding becuse eyes up the sky might be useful: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones...
- likeabbas 4y ago
  You put that so wonderfully. The DoD and other scientists should absolutely stop investing things that are hovering over their naval ships and nuclear silos just because a man on hacker news would rather see other people investigating them. Your credentials having read a bit of physics are so, so helpful. Please, help the rest of the feeble planet with your intellect because you are truly the one person who knows what is worth investigating and what isn't. > And if it's UFO which has exactly the same amount of confirmed evidence as leprechauns That is absolutely false. The 3 navy videos have enough evidence behind them to show UAP are real and exhibiting interesting flight characteristics. You are denying hard evidence - for what reason I don't know.
  - scotty79 4y ago
    Those 3 videos? https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/weird-news/2020/04/28/pentagon-declassifies-3-navy-videos-appearing-to-show-ufos-what-we-know/ https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/weird-news/2020/04/28/pe... Third one is a goose: https://youtu.be/mfhAC2YiYHs https://youtu.be/mfhAC2YiYHs Super solid evidence, no doubt. Yeah, let's investigate. Tens of millions of dollars won't spend themselves. And we certainly wouldn't want to spend it on boring actual astronomy and astrophysics. Btw the other video is just of loosing tracking of a plane: https://youtu.be/3viYcYPRdu4 https://youtu.be/3viYcYPRdu4
    - likeabbas 4y ago
      You are refusing to look at the counter-evidence I provide with regards to people trying to de-bunk the 3 navy videos. GOFAST: The "goose" would need to be flying 100 knots to account for the wind speed https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1603518927891357696 https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1603518927891357696 GIMBAL: If the DoD would confirm the range of the object was 6-8 nautical miles (which has been confirmed by the pilots on the mission) than this object performed a "vertical u-turn" where the rotation directly correlates with the change in direction https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1620220980839993345?s=20&t=uoeYActKAAFr0qgdyIpX9g https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1620220980839993345?s=... FLIR1: Hasn't been debunked has a plane. https://twitter.com/MvonRen/status/1599796010506924033 https://twitter.com/MvonRen/status/1599796010506924033 All of the attempts to debunk the videos require very specific assumptions that are not proven. The GIMBAL object was not 30 nautical miles away as Mick west says. The GOFAST object is going against 120 knots of wind, West is assuming there is no wind at all. The Tic-Tac is exhibiting instantaneous acceleration and no plane today can do this. Nothing about these videos has been debunked. The DoD could put this to rest by releasing the additional sensor data, but they won't because the sensors are highly classified.

scotty79 4y ago

All of my credentials is that I learned a bit of physics and I read a bit of SF and I can tell one from the other. If it was about existence of leprechauns and effects of meeting them you'd have no problem dismissing it as well regardless of how accomplished people would be interested in the subject. And if it's UFO which has exactly the same amount of confirmed evidence as leprechauns suddenly there's a problem and you need credentials because ufologists made their belief sound sciency. I know that those 3 scientists are accomplished people in their respective, unassociated fields. For various definitions of the word "accomplished". But I'd much rather see a psychiatrist and plane surveillance device constructor/tester and possibly a magician or a con artist investigating those documents coming out of DoD first than three avid ufologists. In my opinion it might be way more productive and brilliant immunologist could stick to doing good work in immunology, astrophysicist could research new insights in astrophysics that is actually very promising field, and ex DoD employee very theoretical physicist might continue his mid life crisis or whatever he's doing. But rest assured, the research is going on. Good news for you: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-try-to-get-serious-about-studying-ufos-good-luck-with-that/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-try-to... I'll just be bitter for the waste of research power for the next few years before it goes away. As it always did. Maybe they'll even get the funding becuse eyes up the sky might be useful: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones...

likeabbas 4y ago
You put that so wonderfully. The DoD and other scientists should absolutely stop investing things that are hovering over their naval ships and nuclear silos just because a man on hacker news would rather see other people investigating them. Your credentials having read a bit of physics are so, so helpful. Please, help the rest of the feeble planet with your intellect because you are truly the one person who knows what is worth investigating and what isn't. > And if it's UFO which has exactly the same amount of confirmed evidence as leprechauns That is absolutely false. The 3 navy videos have enough evidence behind them to show UAP are real and exhibiting interesting flight characteristics. You are denying hard evidence - for what reason I don't know.
- scotty79 4y ago
  Those 3 videos? https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/weird-news/2020/04/28/pentagon-declassifies-3-navy-videos-appearing-to-show-ufos-what-we-know/ https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/weird-news/2020/04/28/pe... Third one is a goose: https://youtu.be/mfhAC2YiYHs https://youtu.be/mfhAC2YiYHs Super solid evidence, no doubt. Yeah, let's investigate. Tens of millions of dollars won't spend themselves. And we certainly wouldn't want to spend it on boring actual astronomy and astrophysics. Btw the other video is just of loosing tracking of a plane: https://youtu.be/3viYcYPRdu4 https://youtu.be/3viYcYPRdu4
  - likeabbas 4y ago
    You are refusing to look at the counter-evidence I provide with regards to people trying to de-bunk the 3 navy videos. GOFAST: The "goose" would need to be flying 100 knots to account for the wind speed https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1603518927891357696 https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1603518927891357696 GIMBAL: If the DoD would confirm the range of the object was 6-8 nautical miles (which has been confirmed by the pilots on the mission) than this object performed a "vertical u-turn" where the rotation directly correlates with the change in direction https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1620220980839993345?s=20&t=uoeYActKAAFr0qgdyIpX9g https://twitter.com/the_cholla/status/1620220980839993345?s=... FLIR1: Hasn't been debunked has a plane. https://twitter.com/MvonRen/status/1599796010506924033 https://twitter.com/MvonRen/status/1599796010506924033 All of the attempts to debunk the videos require very specific assumptions that are not proven. The GIMBAL object was not 30 nautical miles away as Mick west says. The GOFAST object is going against 120 knots of wind, West is assuming there is no wind at all. The Tic-Tac is exhibiting instantaneous acceleration and no plane today can do this. Nothing about these videos has been debunked. The DoD could put this to rest by releasing the additional sensor data, but they won't because the sensors are highly classified.