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The only thing minorities lack is a proper value system. There are multiple immigrant groups that start from nothing and achieve upper middle-class status in a

by rirze 4y ago

The only thing minorities lack is a proper value system. There are multiple immigrant groups that start from nothing and achieve upper middle-class status in a generation's time. Once we realize, as a society, that what minorities really need is internal support to reform their cultural systems, only then will minorities will empower themselves to do better.

Animats 4y ago
There are multiple immigrant groups that start from nothing and achieve upper middle-class status in a generation's time. Irish, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans... In Martin Luther King's day, the line was that all that was needed was equality of opportunity.
- goatlover 4y ago
  Malcom X also said this and pointed to immigrants As examples to immulate.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > In Martin Luther King's day, the line was that all that was needed was equality of opportunity. If you actually read and/or listen to King's speeches and writings, rather than just passively consume the propaganda image constructed by exactly the forces King railed against, you would know that it wasn't, at least not the way you seem to be thinking. King explicitly saw as necessary radical redistribution to acheive much greater equality of material condition (see, e.g., the “Three Evils” speech); he did not buy into the idea that material conditions that are the outcome of systems of distribution of scarce resources could be cleanly severed from “opportunity”, such that you could have even rough equality of the latter with gross inequality of the former.
nemothekid 4y ago
>There are multiple immigrant groups that start from nothing and achieve upper middle-class status in a generation's time You can't compare an immigrant group, which is _most likely_ elite in their home countries (it is very expensive and very difficult to immigrate to the united states), to minorities in America who have seen their family units destroyed as recently as 60 years ago. You can point to the success of Nigerian-Americans; one of, if not the most educated[1] racial group in the US. If you are an immigrant from Nigeria, the second richest country in Africa by GDP, the US as a result of its immigration policies simply selects for the best and brightest. Minorities "lacking a value system" (??), isn't something innate to their culture. It's been a purposeful policy for America for most of it's lifetime. Just look at the Tulsa Race Massacre; it was an incredible destruction of future generational and cultural wealth for the people who you now say "lack a value system". >minorities really need is internal support to reform their cultural systems There are multiple ways to approach this but it tends to be labeled as socialism, woke-ism, CRT, or DEI. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s- https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn...

by rirze 4y ago

Animats 4y ago

There are multiple immigrant groups that start from nothing and achieve upper middle-class status in a generation's time. Irish, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Koreans... In Martin Luther King's day, the line was that all that was needed was equality of opportunity.

goatlover 4y ago
Malcom X also said this and pointed to immigrants As examples to immulate.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> In Martin Luther King's day, the line was that all that was needed was equality of opportunity. If you actually read and/or listen to King's speeches and writings, rather than just passively consume the propaganda image constructed by exactly the forces King railed against, you would know that it wasn't, at least not the way you seem to be thinking. King explicitly saw as necessary radical redistribution to acheive much greater equality of material condition (see, e.g., the “Three Evils” speech); he did not buy into the idea that material conditions that are the outcome of systems of distribution of scarce resources could be cleanly severed from “opportunity”, such that you could have even rough equality of the latter with gross inequality of the former.

nemothekid 4y ago

>There are multiple immigrant groups that start from nothing and achieve upper middle-class status in a generation's time You can't compare an immigrant group, which is _most likely_ elite in their home countries (it is very expensive and very difficult to immigrate to the united states), to minorities in America who have seen their family units destroyed as recently as 60 years ago. You can point to the success of Nigerian-Americans; one of, if not the most educated[1] racial group in the US. If you are an immigrant from Nigeria, the second richest country in Africa by GDP, the US as a result of its immigration policies simply selects for the best and brightest. Minorities "lacking a value system" (??), isn't something innate to their culture. It's been a purposeful policy for America for most of it's lifetime. Just look at the Tulsa Race Massacre; it was an incredible destruction of future generational and cultural wealth for the people who you now say "lack a value system". >minorities really need is internal support to reform their cultural systems There are multiple ways to approach this but it tends to be labeled as socialism, woke-ism, CRT, or DEI. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s- https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn...