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I have a Samsung S20 and I'll never buy another Samsung phone again unless they drastically change course. Their dumb insistence on fighting Google at every tu

I have a Samsung S20 and I'll never buy another Samsung phone again unless they drastically change course. Their dumb insistence on fighting Google at every turn means that Google Fi's Visual Voicemail is broken on Samsung devices. I also get regular nag notifications to create or log into a Samsung account, agree to some Samsung TOS that I'm not even a part of, or other nonsense. The phone looks sleek, but the rounded edges mean that the edge of the screen is distorted and useless, and combined with the slick surfaces it practically catapult itself off of common household furnishing. The much-touted, three-lens camera isn't even any good! The photos are dull, over-processed, and show lens distortion at various points across the image.

hnburnsy 4y ago
Use the Universal Android Debloater. It makes your Samsung phone like the early Oneplus phones, clean and fast. Super happy with my S20 Ultra after having Oneplus for years. Tip get a certified refurb from Amazon, 90 days to return if not happy.
- acchow 4y ago
  I just read through the installation instructions for Universal Android Debloater. I can see why everyone just wants to buy an iPhone instead.
ysleepy 4y ago
I have an S21 and I'm very happy. https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater I disabled most of samsung's stuff though, no nagging for a samsung account or anything.
- askonomm 4y ago
  > I'm very happy 1. Buy phone 2. Disable most stuff 3. Use some experimental third party tool to "debloat" phone I don't know, that's the exact stuff that would make me the opposite of happy.
  - SlackingOff123 4y ago
    There's unfortunately no such thing as the perfect phone. I think the initial effort of setting up a new phone/computer/whatever is a good trade-off it means afterwards I get the experience I want (or as close as I can get).
    - hasmolo 4y ago
      i've never had to uninstall stuff from an iOS device. i always _must_ root android devices to make them work 'well'.
      - ragazzina 4y ago
        >i've never had to uninstall stuff from an iOS device. But if you decide to uninstall Apple Maps or Apple Calendar, you will find that they remain the default choices for the OS, even if yo uninstalled them. And if you decide to "uninstall" (not enable) Siri, you won't be able to use Shortcuts.
        askonomm 4y ago
        That's not entirely true. You can uninstall Apple Maps and Apple Calendar, among many others: https://support.apple.com/en-ph/HT211833 https://support.apple.com/en-ph/HT211833 And you can set another email client or browser as default https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211336 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211336, albeit not a calendar app.
        ragazzina 4y ago
        What did I say that is not entirely true?
    - quickthrower2 4y ago
      My 2000s Razr wants a word
  - myko 4y ago
- dachryn 4y ago
  If I try that, my banking app refuses to boot because it assumes its jailbroken or something.
akira2501 4y ago
> agree to some Samsung TOS that I'm not even a part of That one happens weekly and it deeply annoys me. I've paid premium money for your device and you're still engaging in this rent seeking relationship building crap and using _my_ device to persistently bother _me_ with it. What did I even pay you for? I will absolutely be looking outside of Samsung for the next one.

hnburnsy 4y ago

Use the Universal Android Debloater. It makes your Samsung phone like the early Oneplus phones, clean and fast. Super happy with my S20 Ultra after having Oneplus for years. Tip get a certified refurb from Amazon, 90 days to return if not happy.

acchow 4y ago
I just read through the installation instructions for Universal Android Debloater. I can see why everyone just wants to buy an iPhone instead.

ysleepy 4y ago

I have an S21 and I'm very happy. https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater I disabled most of samsung's stuff though, no nagging for a samsung account or anything.

askonomm 4y ago
> I'm very happy 1. Buy phone 2. Disable most stuff 3. Use some experimental third party tool to "debloat" phone I don't know, that's the exact stuff that would make me the opposite of happy.
- SlackingOff123 4y ago
  There's unfortunately no such thing as the perfect phone. I think the initial effort of setting up a new phone/computer/whatever is a good trade-off it means afterwards I get the experience I want (or as close as I can get).
  - hasmolo 4y ago
    i've never had to uninstall stuff from an iOS device. i always _must_ root android devices to make them work 'well'.
    - ragazzina 4y ago
      >i've never had to uninstall stuff from an iOS device. But if you decide to uninstall Apple Maps or Apple Calendar, you will find that they remain the default choices for the OS, even if yo uninstalled them. And if you decide to "uninstall" (not enable) Siri, you won't be able to use Shortcuts.
      - askonomm 4y ago
        That's not entirely true. You can uninstall Apple Maps and Apple Calendar, among many others: https://support.apple.com/en-ph/HT211833 https://support.apple.com/en-ph/HT211833 And you can set another email client or browser as default https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211336 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211336, albeit not a calendar app.
        ragazzina 4y ago
        What did I say that is not entirely true?
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    My 2000s Razr wants a word
- myko 4y ago
dachryn 4y ago
If I try that, my banking app refuses to boot because it assumes its jailbroken or something.

akira2501 4y ago

> agree to some Samsung TOS that I'm not even a part of That one happens weekly and it deeply annoys me. I've paid premium money for your device and you're still engaging in this rent seeking relationship building crap and using _my_ device to persistently bother _me_ with it. What did I even pay you for? I will absolutely be looking outside of Samsung for the next one.