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This makes me wonder if Google is about to have its Internet Explorer vs Netscape Navigator moment? ChatGPT isn't there yet, but I can see it replacing Google

This makes me wonder if Google is about to have its Internet Explorer vs Netscape Navigator moment? ChatGPT isn't there yet, but I can see it replacing Google search in the future. Just like Linux never won the desktop, but Android replaced Windows by numbers, it's quite possible that the old way we search the open web will be replaced by a different model. An AI that answers all your questions. The timing is good, because Google search is getting worse every year, mostly due to SEO spam. Having tools like ChatGPT feels like SEO spam will get even easier to generate and harder to detect. ChatGPT plans to charge for usage, and that could be their biggest mistake. If I were Google, I would jump on this, make my own version and give it away for free until all competition runs out of money. Gradually add ads on top of it and keep the leading position. They can even use their dominant position with Android and Chrome to make their AI the default "AI engine". If you feel like they stand no chance, remember that Internet Explorer won and used to be the default for years and years.

ChrisLTD 4y ago
ChatGPT isn't going to run out of money if Microsoft is backing it
- babuskov 4y ago
  Well, it looks like they already have problems keeping the service live. It appears to be down currently: ChatGPT is at capacity right now Get notified when we're back
  - ChrisLTD 4y ago
    Do you think this is because OpenAI doesn't have enough funding?
    - babuskov 4y ago
      They probably have enough money at the moment. The question is how long can they offer the service for free and whether they will go with subscription model or ads model.
swalsh 4y ago
As a content creator, what's my incentive to not block any bot from my site? Personally I think business models need to evolve along with the paradigm shift. I'll happily provide an interface for any bot to come and extract content from my site. I'll even add a bunch of context to help the lil' guy out. But I want to be paid for it. But it's not realisitc for google to have relationships with every single website. I think we need an open protocol to help build a market. Especially since some data is worth more than others (my pokemon database is not worth as much as your stock prediction database). Know some people will downvote me for saying this, but I think crypto might be the best way to automate this. Would suck if Google or Microsoft or some startup ended up centralizing that market.
- babuskov 4y ago
  > But it's not realisitc for google to have relationships with every single website. I thought they pretty much do via AdSense.
tablespoon 4y ago
> ChatGPT isn't there yet, but I can see it replacing Google search in the future.... The timing is good, because Google search is getting worse every year, mostly due to SEO spam. Having tools like ChatGPT feels like SEO spam will get even easier to generate and harder to detect. Honestly, what's stopping SEO spam from taking over this "ChatGPT search," except that it's a new model that they haven't yet learned how to game? It's not an AGI, it's a algorithm that does some mindless but neat stuff with text. At some point it will run into the same type of SEO problems Google does, and then the question is if they're willing to try hard enough to stay ahead in the arms race.

ChrisLTD 4y ago

ChatGPT isn't going to run out of money if Microsoft is backing it

babuskov 4y ago
Well, it looks like they already have problems keeping the service live. It appears to be down currently: ChatGPT is at capacity right now Get notified when we're back
- ChrisLTD 4y ago
  Do you think this is because OpenAI doesn't have enough funding?
  - babuskov 4y ago
    They probably have enough money at the moment. The question is how long can they offer the service for free and whether they will go with subscription model or ads model.

swalsh 4y ago

As a content creator, what's my incentive to not block any bot from my site? Personally I think business models need to evolve along with the paradigm shift. I'll happily provide an interface for any bot to come and extract content from my site. I'll even add a bunch of context to help the lil' guy out. But I want to be paid for it. But it's not realisitc for google to have relationships with every single website. I think we need an open protocol to help build a market. Especially since some data is worth more than others (my pokemon database is not worth as much as your stock prediction database). Know some people will downvote me for saying this, but I think crypto might be the best way to automate this. Would suck if Google or Microsoft or some startup ended up centralizing that market.

babuskov 4y ago
> But it's not realisitc for google to have relationships with every single website. I thought they pretty much do via AdSense.

tablespoon 4y ago

> ChatGPT isn't there yet, but I can see it replacing Google search in the future.... The timing is good, because Google search is getting worse every year, mostly due to SEO spam. Having tools like ChatGPT feels like SEO spam will get even easier to generate and harder to detect. Honestly, what's stopping SEO spam from taking over this "ChatGPT search," except that it's a new model that they haven't yet learned how to game? It's not an AGI, it's a algorithm that does some mindless but neat stuff with text. At some point it will run into the same type of SEO problems Google does, and then the question is if they're willing to try hard enough to stay ahead in the arms race.