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> I can use a 4$ VPS for my own personal cloud. I will never pay 45$ for that. Exactly. These sub-$10 VPS instances are great for small projects where you don'
by PragmaticPulp 4y ago
> I can use a 4$ VPS for my own personal cloud. I will never pay 45$ for that.
Exactly. These sub-$10 VPS instances are great for small projects where you don't want to enter into long contracts or deal with managing your own servers.
If you're running an actual business where margins are razor-thin and you've got all the free time in the world to handle server issues if (when) they come up, those ~$50 dedicated servers could be interesting to explore.
But if you're running an actual business, even a $10,000/month AWS bill is cheaper than hiring another skilled developer to help manage your dedicated servers.
This is what's generally missed in discussions about cloud costs on places like HN: Yes, cloud is expensive, but hiring even a single additional sysadmin/developer to help you manage custom infrastructure is incredibly expensive and much less flexible. That's why spending a hypothetical $5000/month on a cloud hosted solution that could, in theory, be custom-built on a $50/month server with enough time investment can still be a great deal. Engineers are expensive and time is limited.
- bruce343434 4y ago> But if you're running an actual business, even a $10,000/month AWS bill is cheaper than hiring another skilled developer to help manage your dedicated servers. Uhhh, excuse me but how much are you paying this DevOps guy? This seems like a very American perspective, even valley area. In Europe, hiring a guy would be cheaper.
- baq 4y agoWhere do you find these people you say are available for hire in Europe? I see scarcely little
- dijit 4y agoplenty. how much do you want to pay and what skills in particular. I can hook you up in about 3 hours.
- PragmaticPulp 4y ago> Uhhh, excuse me but how much are you paying this DevOps guy? This seems like a very American perspective, even valley area. In Europe, hiring a guy would be cheaper. Fully loaded employment costs are significantly higher than what you take home in your paycheck. It's actually worse in Europe. Take a look at these charts: https://accace.com/the-true-cost-of-an-employee-in-europe/ https://accace.com/the-true-cost-of-an-employee-in-europe/ If you pay someone 1000 EUR in the UK, it costs the company a total of 1245 EUR. If you pay someone 1000 EUR in Romania, it costs the company 1747 EUR total. So a $120,000 fully loaded cost might only buy you at $68,000 USD salary for an EU devops person. But you can't have just one devops person. You need at least 2 if you want to allow one of them to ever take a break, get sick, or go on vacation.