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The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end u
by neosat 4y ago
The blog post is an example of why when you go through a number of edits and additions from various internal groups, marketing, legal, compliance etc. you end up with a message that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience.
I went through the article 3 times thinking I missed the link to try out Bard, get some sense of timeline, roll-out plan...nothing. Come on Google...
- htrp 4y agoIf you have to ask, you're not invited.
- bredren 4y agoIt means they are not a “trusted tester.”
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- enumjorge 4y agoWe know how well that worked out for Google+
- OnlineGladiator 4y agoIt worked for gmail. Maybe some people are too young to remember it was invite-only for years.
- mupuff1234 4y agoThat's because there was no competition and they were the first movers.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoHotmail preceded gmail by most of a decade.
- crazysim 4y agoNot with a 1GB (!!!!!!) inbox.
- thesuperbigfrog 4y agoI had a Hotmail account for about a year in 2000 or so. It had a 10 MB inbox and worked quite well. I got a bit of spam, but it was obvious and manageable. My girlfriend got a GMail invite from a friend and sent me an invite. It was huge. A 1 GB inbox, built-in Google search of your email, and incredible spam filtering. They marketed it something like "With GMail, you don't have to delete your emails. Just search . . .". Really killer features compared to their competitors. Later on, they added automatic email thread grouping which made using Outlook for work a chore until it got a similar feature.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y agoCoincidentally also why ChatGPT won.
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- gundmc 4y agoFor free email? That is patently untrue.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoNo one came close to gmail's 1GB free inbox at the time. Which kept increasing and showed you at the bottom of the inbox. Plus it had amazing spam detection, and was stupid fast, and got better and better very quickly. I remember having a gmail email was almost a litmus test to whether or not you were paying attention to what was going on in tech. Not having a gmail email indicated you might not be keeping up with the times.
- gundmc 4y agoAgreed on all your points! But I think offering a better service in an established sector is the opposite of "no competition" and being a "first mover".
- lotsofpulp 4y agoLike how we would say a professional sports player playing against an amateur has no competition. Technically, yes, but effectively... The context of the discussion is whether or not an "invite only" tactic works for building hype and launching a successful product. In that sense, I would attribute Gmail's success not to the "invite only" tactic, but to the fact that it was so superior that it had no competition.
- ribosometronome 4y agoI remember asking for an invite on what was probably a phpbb.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoGmail was objectively far, far superior than all the other competing email offerings, so people wanted to be invited.
- htrp 4y agoApparently the "trusted testers" are basically all internal employees >CEO Sundar Pichai told employees Monday the company is going to need all hands on deck to test Bard, its new ChatGPT rival. He also said Google will soon be enlisting help from partners to test an application programming interface, or API, that would let others access the same underlying technology. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/06/google-ceo-tells-employees-it-needs-all-hands-on-deck-to-test-bard.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/06/google-ceo-tells-employees-i...
- minimaxir 4y agoThere is an event on Wednesday which will likely provide more information.
- dbish 4y agoHaving worked in big tech for a while, my written-by-a-committee alert went off quickly for this. Founders are the only ones who seem to get away without doing this when running large companies. Personality and substance are very important for communication and committees (and the folks who want to edit as part of one) never get that right.
- rom-antics 4y agoIt seems like a very reactionary move. ChatGPT went viral, and now they have to rush something to market to try and compete. So of course the product doesn't exist yet, but they've had enough time to put together a project plan and some mockups. It's not a great position to be in.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoIt does seem slightly amateurish. If there was more self-confidence like Apple, there wouldn't be a need to announce anything until it's ready. EDIT: Especially if it was already available internally for several months as some others say, waiting another month or two until it's ready to go doesn't seem like a big burden.
- LesZedCB 4y agoi don't think anybody knows how to monetize it. really it's kinda a public service, maybe these models should be run that way?
- CyanBird 4y agoJust picture monetizing it via embedding slant onto the answers it provides like how Alexa suggest purchases but in a way that users can barely just notice... Or purchasing "market share space" on it in the same way that companies buy shelf space on supermarkets to place their products in...
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- jjeaff 4y agoMonetization seems pretty straight forward. User: What is the most durable shoe? AI: Some of the most durable shoes are ... Here are some affiliate links where you can buy these durable shoes...
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- blobbers 4y agoStill can't find the link.
- MrGilbert 4y agoMaybe the Bard announcement was written by Bard?
- ribosometronome 4y agoOut of curiosity, I copied all the text from the website (so it got header, footer, unrelated text) into ChatGPT and asked it to summarize: This is an article written by the CEO of Google and Alphabet, Sundar Pichai, about the company's journey with Artificial Intelligence (AI). Pichai discusses how the company has been working on AI for the past six years and how they have been advancing the state of the art in the field. The article mentions the release of an experimental conversational AI service called Bard, which seeks to combine the breadth of the world's knowledge with the power and intelligence of Google's large language models. The CEO also talks about how the company is working on bringing the benefits of AI into its everyday products, starting with Search, and how AI can deepen people's understanding of information and turn it into useful knowledge more efficiently.
- warent 4y agoGot you: https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum?url=https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-updates/ https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum?url=https://blog.google/technol... Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google and Alphabet, has announced the release of Bard, an experimental conversational AI service powered by Google's Language Model for Dialogue Applications (LaMDA). Bard seeks to combine the breadth of the world's knowledge with the power, intelligence and creativity of Google's large language models. It draws on information from the web to provide fresh, high-quality responses. Bard is initially being released with a lightweight model version of LaMDA, which requires significantly less computing power and will allow for more feedback. Google is also working to bring its latest AI advancements into its products, starting with Search, and will soon be onboarding individual developers, creators and enterprises to try its Generative Language API. Google is committed to developing AI responsibly and will continue to be bold with innovation and responsible in its approach.
- KennyFromIT 4y agoWow, thank you for that link. Now I have a new bookmarklet... javascript:location.href='https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum?url='+encodeURIComponent(location.href) https://labs.kagi.com/ai/sum?url='+encodeURIComponent(locati...
- warent 4y agoThey probably launched this for free as marketing to increase visibility into their startup! Enjoy it while it lasts before the service is paywalled Note I've been using Kagi happily for several months and it has successfully replaced Google Search for me. Highly recommended.
- nickstinemates 4y agoFormatting is a little messed up, but great idea here.
- oars 4y agoThanks for the bookmarklet!
- dougmwne 4y agoThere is nothing concrete available today because Google is scrambling to get ahead of a major announcement from Microsoft on integrating GPT into Bing. Internal sources from MS are saying it might be the first we see of GPT-4.
- enneff 4y agoWhy do you say google is scrambling when they have been working on AI stuff just as impressive as OpenAI, which you could spin differently to say Microsoft “scrambled” to make a partnership with and are now attempting to cram GPT into their tech stack. FWIW I don’t think either company are really scrambling except in the performative sense of making announcements to appease the market.
- dougmwne 4y agoBecause while Google has been researching, OpenAI has been productizing. We will have to judge it once we get access to Bard, but it’s possible Google is years behind on creating a chat model that won’t spew toxic waste, as GPT-3 did when it was first released a few years ago.
- enneff 4y agoI work at google and have used their AI tools and they’re just as impressive as the OpenAI ones (which I use personally, outside of work). Both have been developing products, just google hasn’t released any of them.
- wilsonnb3 4y ago> we’re taking another step forward by opening it up to trusted testers ahead of making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks. this is in like the 5th paragraph, right under the 'Introducing Bard' title.
- berkle4455 4y ago> that's a lot of words but not a lot of information for any key audience So they used ChatGPT to generate it?
- aantix 4y agoHave you ever tried utilize one of their APIs..? It's an atrocious experience. They're leaving so much money on the table.
- verelo 4y agoAlso good luck signing up and making your first API call. OpenAI made that very easy, Google no doubt will make it a total pain.
- jliptzin 4y agoIt was written by ChatGPT
- blihp 4y agoIt's corporate-speak for 'we're not letting the threat going unanswered' without actually delivering anything yet. It's mostly a placeholder for shareholders and especially the media to move the story away from 'Google's in trouble'
- jillesvangurp 4y agoExactly, he announced that they are doing a thing. With a very ambiguous screenshot of the thing and zero evidence of just how good the thing is. And no link to the actual thing. So, the thing doesn't exist yet in a form that is concrete or demoable. And it definitely isn't ready for users. Which is the same thing really. Also there's no timeline of the thing actually getting there either. So, there's nothing here really. Why is Sundar Pichai still in charge of this company? Months of excitement around chat gpt and then the best he came up with is this?! This reads to me like "The dog ate my homework, sorry. I have nothing of substance to announce today. Or tomorrow. Or any time soon.". Also, Bard. Really?! Cringeworthy doesn't begin to describe how bad that is as a brand name. It' sounds like Bad spelled wrong.
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- giarc 4y ago"making it more widely available to the public in the coming weeks."
- seaourfreed 4y agoOr maybe they had ChatGPT write their blog post. ha ha ha...
- ljm 4y agoOr they asked their new AI to write the post and they got a result that sounds amazing but is still total fluff
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- hammock 4y agoThere is no information to give. This "announcement" is a reaction to all the stories about how ChatGPT is going to eat Google's lunch. The company needed to do something to defend against that in the market - for the sake of its shareholders and its advertising revenue. That said, here is the chatgpt summary I generated: Google CEO Sundar Pichai announces the release of their conversational AI service "Bard," which combines the world's knowledge with the company's large language models. Bard seeks to provide fresh, high-quality responses to questions and allow users to explore new information. The release is part of Google's effort to bring the benefits of AI into everyday products and deepen people's understanding of information.
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- sytelus 4y agoThis kind of no information exec-speak is very painful to read. I had to pass it through ChatGPT to summarize. THe whole article can be summarized in 1 sentence without any loss of information: "Google will name it's chatbot Bard and it be based on Lambda model, initially small size". No link, no other details, basically a lot of words to say nothing at all.