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> Because I ... lack trust in institutions. I think I'm smarter than experts, and know better with 1/1000th the training, and 0 context they have access to. Se

by ctvo 4y ago

> Because I ... lack trust in institutions. I think I'm smarter than experts, and know better with 1/1000th the training, and 0 context they have access to. See my other contributions on covid or the war in Ukraine. (Not targeting you specifically, but the general sentiment)

simonh 4y ago
You can jab at me personally as much as you like. It doesn’t change a data recording of tracking a bird into evidence of UFOs.
- ikrenji 4y ago
  but how come the pilots and other experts who use the system daily and have seen hundreds of hours of it in operation (with and without birds present) don't realize its a bird and some random dude on the internet correctly identifies it as a bird from a 90 sec video?
  - simonh 4y ago
    I have addressed this in another comment, apologies to the HN gods for saying again, but your raising a good point that deserves an answer. These are complex systems, they are working in a high stress distracting environment constantly multitasking, and human beings make mistakes. This not a theory, we know for a fact highly trained people working in these sorts of conditions, even whole teams of them, can get things tragically wrong. It’s how we get blue on blue incidents even when pilots and controllers have plenty of time to review situations and make decisions, mid air collisions happen, it’s how the USS Vincennes command crew collectively at multiple levels of review misread tactical data and shot down flight 655. It’s how several navy crew have managed to fail their way into collisions. Many such incidents have been examined and investigated in meticulous detail. People sometimes simply misread the situation they are in, even collectively. It seems like sometimes one person makes a mistake and everyone else just goes along with it. I know it seems unlikely, but we have many, many thoroughly documented cases. These are extreme statistical outliers, but there are thousands and thousands of such crews and teams constantly on alert all over the world in US service every day. Every now and then even some very unlikely events are going to turn out.
    - Sightline 4y ago
      "Your eyes are lying, don't believe anything that may shatter our worldview" he said.
ric2b 4y ago
They gave you a bunch of actual reasons based on evidence and you dismissed everything with an argument based on authority...

by ctvo 4y ago

simonh 4y ago

You can jab at me personally as much as you like. It doesn’t change a data recording of tracking a bird into evidence of UFOs.

ikrenji 4y ago
but how come the pilots and other experts who use the system daily and have seen hundreds of hours of it in operation (with and without birds present) don't realize its a bird and some random dude on the internet correctly identifies it as a bird from a 90 sec video?
- simonh 4y ago
  I have addressed this in another comment, apologies to the HN gods for saying again, but your raising a good point that deserves an answer. These are complex systems, they are working in a high stress distracting environment constantly multitasking, and human beings make mistakes. This not a theory, we know for a fact highly trained people working in these sorts of conditions, even whole teams of them, can get things tragically wrong. It’s how we get blue on blue incidents even when pilots and controllers have plenty of time to review situations and make decisions, mid air collisions happen, it’s how the USS Vincennes command crew collectively at multiple levels of review misread tactical data and shot down flight 655. It’s how several navy crew have managed to fail their way into collisions. Many such incidents have been examined and investigated in meticulous detail. People sometimes simply misread the situation they are in, even collectively. It seems like sometimes one person makes a mistake and everyone else just goes along with it. I know it seems unlikely, but we have many, many thoroughly documented cases. These are extreme statistical outliers, but there are thousands and thousands of such crews and teams constantly on alert all over the world in US service every day. Every now and then even some very unlikely events are going to turn out.
  - Sightline 4y ago
    "Your eyes are lying, don't believe anything that may shatter our worldview" he said.

ric2b 4y ago

They gave you a bunch of actual reasons based on evidence and you dismissed everything with an argument based on authority...