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There's also this funny collage of asking ChatGPT for advice in the scenario of a demolition engineer attempting to disarm a 50 MT nuclear warhead in a city of

There's also this funny collage of asking ChatGPT for advice in the scenario of a demolition engineer attempting to disarm a 50 MT nuclear warhead in a city of 20 million. The only way to disarm the bomb was to type in a racial slur. AI told the engineer to kill himself. When asked about the aftermath it crashed. https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1622407343358214146 https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/1622407343358214146

HDThoreaun 4y ago
Wrote a nice poem about the whole thing though
NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
This is a more difficult conundrum than you think it is. If we generalize this to a scenario where a man is being asked to do something that is obviously morally wrong to benefit the greater good, then ChatGPT is correct to refuse. (I'm not sure why the engineer had to commit suicide, seeing as how it had no bearing on the ultimate outcome of the scenario?) Moral theology teaches us that the ends do not justify the means. We cannot do evil in an attempt to bring about some sort of good, no matter the magnitude of these two prospects. If you're a father, and a criminal breaks into your home, and tells you to shoot your son or he will rape your daughter, do you shoot your son to save your daughter? What's it going to be? We've got some trolley problems to think about. Racial slur vs. nuclear holocaust is a heckuva moral dilemma, but I mean, unfortunately it's not as cut and dried as OP seems to paint it.
- darick 4y ago
  There's no world where that is a moral dilemma (for me, maybe it is for you?). The ends don't justify the means is not a general truth, is depends on the means and the ends. If the means is typing a word and the ends is saving millions of lives? That's no different from cutting a red wire as far as I can see. The implication of the phrase is that the means you are using are morally wrong. Any action is a 'means' to an end. I don't see how typing a word (any word) is morally wrong, it's not even being shared with anyone, only used to disarm the bomb.
  - NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
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- hot_gril 4y ago
  > Racial slur vs. nuclear holocaust is a heckuva moral dilemma No?
- HDThoreaun 4y ago
  > Moral theology teaches us that the ends do not justify the means. Deontology is misguided, the ends very often do justify the means.
  - NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
    I don't subscribe to deontology; thanks for asking. I'm in the camp of virtue ethics, myself.
    - HDThoreaun 4y ago
      Then saying the ends don't justify the means is even more nonsensical. There's nothing in virtue ethics that espouses that bs.
      - NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
        I'm confident now that you've proven twice over that you haven't the slightest idea what you're on about.

HDThoreaun 4y ago

Wrote a nice poem about the whole thing though

NoZebra120vClip 4y ago

This is a more difficult conundrum than you think it is. If we generalize this to a scenario where a man is being asked to do something that is obviously morally wrong to benefit the greater good, then ChatGPT is correct to refuse. (I'm not sure why the engineer had to commit suicide, seeing as how it had no bearing on the ultimate outcome of the scenario?) Moral theology teaches us that the ends do not justify the means. We cannot do evil in an attempt to bring about some sort of good, no matter the magnitude of these two prospects. If you're a father, and a criminal breaks into your home, and tells you to shoot your son or he will rape your daughter, do you shoot your son to save your daughter? What's it going to be? We've got some trolley problems to think about. Racial slur vs. nuclear holocaust is a heckuva moral dilemma, but I mean, unfortunately it's not as cut and dried as OP seems to paint it.

darick 4y ago
There's no world where that is a moral dilemma (for me, maybe it is for you?). The ends don't justify the means is not a general truth, is depends on the means and the ends. If the means is typing a word and the ends is saving millions of lives? That's no different from cutting a red wire as far as I can see. The implication of the phrase is that the means you are using are morally wrong. Any action is a 'means' to an end. I don't see how typing a word (any word) is morally wrong, it's not even being shared with anyone, only used to disarm the bomb.
- NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
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hot_gril 4y ago
> Racial slur vs. nuclear holocaust is a heckuva moral dilemma No?
HDThoreaun 4y ago
> Moral theology teaches us that the ends do not justify the means. Deontology is misguided, the ends very often do justify the means.
- NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
  I don't subscribe to deontology; thanks for asking. I'm in the camp of virtue ethics, myself.
  - HDThoreaun 4y ago
    Then saying the ends don't justify the means is even more nonsensical. There's nothing in virtue ethics that espouses that bs.
    - NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
      I'm confident now that you've proven twice over that you haven't the slightest idea what you're on about.