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Chapelle is rolling in Netflix money and won a Grammy last night. By what metric is he "cancelled" other than "some people called him bad names"?

jasonlotito 4y ago
Don't you know? You are supposed to be on your knees in front of Chapelle worshiping him. Criticism flows down hill.
BitwiseFool 4y ago
I can't help but think that his prior fame and clout as a comedian, alongside his existing wealth, is what enabled him to get his recent bits produced and published. He was already well known and well liked enough to overcome the controversy. I don't think his success indicates any comedian can do the same and be free of cancellation, or that it should be taken as evidence that cancellation isn't a real thing for comedians.
- anoonmoose 4y ago
  > taken as evidence that cancellation isn't a real thing for comedians Sounds like trying to prove a negative. If people want to convince me that cancellation is a real thing for comedians, I'd want to see...examples of comedians who actually got cancelled. CK and Chappelle ain't it.
  - BitwiseFool 4y ago
    >"I'd want to see...examples of comedians who actually got cancelled" I have an inkling of how this would go. I'd do a quick google search and offer up a handful of names. The counter argument would probably be along the lines of 'that wasn't really cancellation, it was actually...' and then we'd go back and forth debating the meaning of words. The point I was specifically trying to make was that because Chapelle defied expectations and was successful, that does not mean cancellation isn't a real thing that can happen to other comedians.
    - anoonmoose 4y ago
      This is a pretty lazy, hand-waving, "I'm right so there's no need for discussion" response, imo.
slackfan 4y ago
So, what you're telling me, is that millionaires get to make transphobic jokes all they want, because they are immune to cancellation because of their bank account. Fun.
- pjc50 4y ago
  That is basically what happens, yes. If you've got enough money you can even demand transphobic legislation.
- nemothekid 4y ago
  >because of their bank account. He won a grammy. I don't know what more you can want. It seems like cancelled has come to mean "everyone doesn't immediately fellate me"
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  No one is stopping you from making transphobic jokes it you want to. You're not entitled to have anyone listen to you, or like you, or give you any money for it, but you can totally do it.

jasonlotito 4y ago

Don't you know? You are supposed to be on your knees in front of Chapelle worshiping him. Criticism flows down hill.

BitwiseFool 4y ago

I can't help but think that his prior fame and clout as a comedian, alongside his existing wealth, is what enabled him to get his recent bits produced and published. He was already well known and well liked enough to overcome the controversy. I don't think his success indicates any comedian can do the same and be free of cancellation, or that it should be taken as evidence that cancellation isn't a real thing for comedians.

anoonmoose 4y ago
> taken as evidence that cancellation isn't a real thing for comedians Sounds like trying to prove a negative. If people want to convince me that cancellation is a real thing for comedians, I'd want to see...examples of comedians who actually got cancelled. CK and Chappelle ain't it.
- BitwiseFool 4y ago
  >"I'd want to see...examples of comedians who actually got cancelled" I have an inkling of how this would go. I'd do a quick google search and offer up a handful of names. The counter argument would probably be along the lines of 'that wasn't really cancellation, it was actually...' and then we'd go back and forth debating the meaning of words. The point I was specifically trying to make was that because Chapelle defied expectations and was successful, that does not mean cancellation isn't a real thing that can happen to other comedians.
  - anoonmoose 4y ago
    This is a pretty lazy, hand-waving, "I'm right so there's no need for discussion" response, imo.

slackfan 4y ago

So, what you're telling me, is that millionaires get to make transphobic jokes all they want, because they are immune to cancellation because of their bank account. Fun.

pjc50 4y ago
That is basically what happens, yes. If you've got enough money you can even demand transphobic legislation.
nemothekid 4y ago
>because of their bank account. He won a grammy. I don't know what more you can want. It seems like cancelled has come to mean "everyone doesn't immediately fellate me"
AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
No one is stopping you from making transphobic jokes it you want to. You're not entitled to have anyone listen to you, or like you, or give you any money for it, but you can totally do it.