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I was going to recommend OVH too, they have such cheap offerings for VPS too (on the screen in the article, we see that their 4$ VPS has 500MB RAM (probably ama

I was going to recommend OVH too, they have such cheap offerings for VPS too (on the screen in the article, we see that their 4$ VPS has 500MB RAM (probably amazon lightsail), for that same price you get 2GB RAM on OVH VPS I didn't see your 5€/month offer though I'd think they are fit for production, a few services use them, like Lichess (can see their stack here https://lichess.org/costs https://lichess.org/costs )

nl 4y ago
This is a great breakdown. Seeing their single greatest cost line-item being "site moderation" (more than developer salary!) is such a stark reminder of where the real problems running an internet service are.
TacticalCoder 4y ago
Oh my bad: OVH is totally fit for production and they've got very good DDoS protection (which you can combine with CloudFlare and whatnots) but... I just meant that I wouldn't recommend the 5 EUR / month dedicated servers for production: these do not have a big bandwidth and they don't have ECC RAM. I edited my other post accordingly.
- blibble 4y ago
  > OVH is totally fit for production and they've got very good DDoS protection (which you can combine with CloudFlare and whatnots) the very good DDoS protection just seems to null route YOUR ip if it receives more than a certain amount of traffic/second for me it used to trigger a few times a year from just random internet noise, like a portscan (as no-one other than me knew the host even existed)
  - cbcr 4y ago
    > just seems to null route YOUR ip if it receives more than a certain amount of traffic/second This is not how it works. I recommend you go to the related webpages (just type "OVH antiddos" on Google), the anti-DDoS system is well documented nowadays. If you _actually_ suffer from "null-routing"-like issues when the anti-DDoS triggers, you might want to get in touch with the support team to escalate the issue. I have a feeling they may be very interested about this.
netule 4y ago
A bit off-topic, but thanks for linking that breakdown. I would never have thought that a chess website would cost $400k/y to operate.

nl 4y ago

This is a great breakdown. Seeing their single greatest cost line-item being "site moderation" (more than developer salary!) is such a stark reminder of where the real problems running an internet service are.

TacticalCoder 4y ago

Oh my bad: OVH is totally fit for production and they've got very good DDoS protection (which you can combine with CloudFlare and whatnots) but... I just meant that I wouldn't recommend the 5 EUR / month dedicated servers for production: these do not have a big bandwidth and they don't have ECC RAM. I edited my other post accordingly.

blibble 4y ago
> OVH is totally fit for production and they've got very good DDoS protection (which you can combine with CloudFlare and whatnots) the very good DDoS protection just seems to null route YOUR ip if it receives more than a certain amount of traffic/second for me it used to trigger a few times a year from just random internet noise, like a portscan (as no-one other than me knew the host even existed)
- cbcr 4y ago
  > just seems to null route YOUR ip if it receives more than a certain amount of traffic/second This is not how it works. I recommend you go to the related webpages (just type "OVH antiddos" on Google), the anti-DDoS system is well documented nowadays. If you _actually_ suffer from "null-routing"-like issues when the anti-DDoS triggers, you might want to get in touch with the support team to escalate the issue. I have a feeling they may be very interested about this.

netule 4y ago

A bit off-topic, but thanks for linking that breakdown. I would never have thought that a chess website would cost $400k/y to operate.