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This is horrifying but true. We actually have an active court case against Siemens for corruption. Unfortunately, the court case was deemed as confidential beca

This is horrifying but true. We actually have an active court case against Siemens for corruption. Unfortunately, the court case was deemed as confidential because of national security and public order. No journalists are allowed in, protocols are kept secret. There is wide reaching news articles about this topic, one example you can read it via google translate: https://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/marmarayin-neden-kapatildigi-belli-oldu-sinyalizasyon-yok-1223808 https://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/marmarayin-neden-kapatil... I believe Siemens is actively lying to cover up the corruption scandal. This will blow up hugely after the elections. There is a press ban on the corruption scandal, all news articles have been ordered to be deleted, the article I read about the scandal has also been purged from the web, this is the tweet of the esteemed journalist who was tipped about the corruption scandal: https://twitter.com/baristerkoglu/status/1565395320296587265 https://twitter.com/baristerkoglu/status/1565395320296587265

martinald 4y ago
This video shows signals everywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPE1yDddAiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPE1yDddAiw You can even see a train on the opposing line stopped at a signal before the platform. You literally would have accidents daily if you had NO signals at all on such an intensive line. You cannot run more than one train on a line with no signals and not have accidents given the stopping distances of trains, you can't do it visually like a car. Perhaps you coudl get away with it on very long straight sections of track at lowish speed, but absolutely not a 30tph urban railway with curves, tunnels and frequent stations. Maybe you mean there was no automatic train protection installed? That sounds very plausible to not be done right and disabled due to wanting the line open quickly or corruption. Many train lines don't have ATP installed across the world. In the UK only a handful have lines have 'true' ATP which will stop the train if the train is speeding (right now it only stops it on most lines if it goes through a red signal, regardless of speed).
- terminalcommand 4y ago
  I believe the video shows a small part of the track and specially shot this way. In reality the signalization does not work reliably and is not available for the whole track. I have never seen opposing trains running side by side, they only use rail tracks one-way and do not run trains side by side even in the same direction. They do the coordination via sight and communicate through whatsapp and radio.
  - martinald 4y ago
    Ok I've totally lost you. Rail tracks are only used one way. You can see a train waiting at a signal. There is absolutely 0 chance that you can do a 30tph service like you are describing. It simply isn't possible.
SECProto 4y ago
> There is wide reaching news articles about this topic, one example you can read it via google translate: That article seems to be discussing how track works were being conducted without signal protection. Which is very different than no signals being installed. The rest of your comment, regarding corruption scandal, seems totally possible.

martinald 4y ago

This video shows signals everywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPE1yDddAiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPE1yDddAiw You can even see a train on the opposing line stopped at a signal before the platform. You literally would have accidents daily if you had NO signals at all on such an intensive line. You cannot run more than one train on a line with no signals and not have accidents given the stopping distances of trains, you can't do it visually like a car. Perhaps you coudl get away with it on very long straight sections of track at lowish speed, but absolutely not a 30tph urban railway with curves, tunnels and frequent stations. Maybe you mean there was no automatic train protection installed? That sounds very plausible to not be done right and disabled due to wanting the line open quickly or corruption. Many train lines don't have ATP installed across the world. In the UK only a handful have lines have 'true' ATP which will stop the train if the train is speeding (right now it only stops it on most lines if it goes through a red signal, regardless of speed).

terminalcommand 4y ago
I believe the video shows a small part of the track and specially shot this way. In reality the signalization does not work reliably and is not available for the whole track. I have never seen opposing trains running side by side, they only use rail tracks one-way and do not run trains side by side even in the same direction. They do the coordination via sight and communicate through whatsapp and radio.
- martinald 4y ago
  Ok I've totally lost you. Rail tracks are only used one way. You can see a train waiting at a signal. There is absolutely 0 chance that you can do a 30tph service like you are describing. It simply isn't possible.

SECProto 4y ago

> There is wide reaching news articles about this topic, one example you can read it via google translate: That article seems to be discussing how track works were being conducted without signal protection. Which is very different than no signals being installed. The rest of your comment, regarding corruption scandal, seems totally possible.