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>Are you content with the status quo? The status quo is IMHO terrible, but it affects also "smart" ovens, regriferators, tv's, and anything that is designed to

by jaclaz 4y ago

>Are you content with the status quo? The status quo is IMHO terrible, but it affects also "smart" ovens, regriferators, tv's, and anything that is designed to be "connected" (IOT). And games (which you mentioned) are just games. I am more worried that tomorrow morning the PC's used in the office to make an activity go on (accounting, personnel, e-mails, invoices, bank, etc.) may not boot because of a stupid update to the OS or may not connect to the internet because something got corrupted in the router/modem firmware. If I were in a position to enact laws ( and talking of spherical cows in a vacuum) I would draw a line between "professional" use and "leisure" use, no idea how it could be implemented, but a work PC (I mean one used for the boring everyday tasks that are needed) should be rock solid, have no updates whatsoever unless they are somehow "guaranteed" to be working, and needs not to be that fast or have the latest-latest technology (oh, and while I am at it solid backup/imaging technology should be built-in and implemented by default). I understand that a large part of the HN audience is formed by IT professionals that are either able to solve these issues by themselves or work in large corporate environments where there are IT professionals dedicated to solve them, but there are many smaller offices, firms, workers that are - more or less - exposed to these risks and have not any (valid) support from technicians, software houses, etc..

GianFabien 4y ago
Agree with your comments. But how are we going to implement solutions when the corporate objectives are to maximize profit, get to market ASAP, dazzle with outlandish claims. Even the technology focused firms of yore are now run by executives with MBAs and a focus on maximizing shareholder value. Intel's recent decision to cut salaries in order to maintain high dividends is an example of the madness that has gripped formerly dependable corporations.
mattbrewsbytes 4y ago
> I would draw a line between "professional" use and "leisure" use Legally? like a law about quality of software? That's kinda bonkers. Let the market sort this out itself. Eventually "Internet Of Shit" will be more in the mainstream consciousness and the pendulum of the market will swing back to what consumers want.
- jaclaz 4y ago
  Sure, legally. It is not about quality of all software, it is about expected use of software, software (including OS) used for "serious" things should be "serious". It may seem bonkers, but since market hasn't managed to sort it out, something should be made in order to sort it out, at least as long as the government is requiring businesses to use computers and the internet for almost anything. I know it will never happen, of course.
- selfhoster11 4y ago
  I don’t have the kind of time to be waiting around to wait for “the markets” to catch up. I want my useful software now, not in 10 or 20 years. Not to mention that I feel we’ve already had this in the past, but that iteration of technology was taken away from us by the march of the markets.

by jaclaz 4y ago

GianFabien 4y ago

Agree with your comments. But how are we going to implement solutions when the corporate objectives are to maximize profit, get to market ASAP, dazzle with outlandish claims. Even the technology focused firms of yore are now run by executives with MBAs and a focus on maximizing shareholder value. Intel's recent decision to cut salaries in order to maintain high dividends is an example of the madness that has gripped formerly dependable corporations.

mattbrewsbytes 4y ago

> I would draw a line between "professional" use and "leisure" use Legally? like a law about quality of software? That's kinda bonkers. Let the market sort this out itself. Eventually "Internet Of Shit" will be more in the mainstream consciousness and the pendulum of the market will swing back to what consumers want.

jaclaz 4y ago
Sure, legally. It is not about quality of all software, it is about expected use of software, software (including OS) used for "serious" things should be "serious". It may seem bonkers, but since market hasn't managed to sort it out, something should be made in order to sort it out, at least as long as the government is requiring businesses to use computers and the internet for almost anything. I know it will never happen, of course.
selfhoster11 4y ago
I don’t have the kind of time to be waiting around to wait for “the markets” to catch up. I want my useful software now, not in 10 or 20 years. Not to mention that I feel we’ve already had this in the past, but that iteration of technology was taken away from us by the march of the markets.