That's why I said fine, not great. There's tons of room for improvement, but it's not the disaster that the US health care system is. But obviously any system

That's why I said fine, not great. There's tons of room for improvement, but it's not the disaster that the US health care system is. But obviously any system that involves for-profit companies with executives and shareholders is going to siphon some money out of the system. I don't doubt socialised healthcare systems are fundamentally cheaper, and if done well, at least equal in quality. I'm just saying it's not just the privatised nature that's crippling the US system; it's certainly not helping, but it's aggravated by being a particularly poorly implemented privatised system that's entirely about profit and doesn't really care about the people it's supposed to help. And let's not fool ourselves; there are also wrong ways to do socialised healthcare. I do think socialised is generally better, but you always have to look critically at all the parts of the system.