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From the beginning of using Stable Diffusion in local and cloud instances, I’ve been promoting SD to generate objects I know nobody has ever drawn before. “Airp
by dzink 4y ago
From the beginning of using Stable Diffusion in local and cloud instances, I’ve been promoting SD to generate objects I know nobody has ever drawn before. “Airplane by Tesla”, “Taylor Swift flying in the clouds”, “Little girl riding on an ira descent unicorn and chasing butterflies in the clouds”, “Turkey as a Judge” etc. I highly encourage everyone to try doing that. The results are absolutely atrocious in the beginning and it takes many many runs short and long, with seeds guiding the model to get closer and closer to what I ask. It took a long time to get one instance of SD to make the invention look plausible, and then trying on a new model copy/instance takes the results back to crap. That makes me suspect your guidance trains the instance you are using and your prompts and feedback create the work substantially. The model truly generates novel content based on input of the generator and it takes effort to replicate a work it was trained on, likely by using multiple keywords the original was captioned with in many places. So you can get replicas if you try, but you can also draw replicas with brushes if you have enough skill as well. To reiterate: try to generate content you know nobody has ever drawn before (and google to verify it is truly original) and see how much effort it takes to get an actually good result. Now sub-trained models can be steered in different directions, so it’s possible that Midjourney or a heavily sub-trained cloud instance overfit to the originals, so this is not universal, but every copy of the model is likely different and molded by the prompts and feedback it’s been given.
- convexfunction 4y agoSorry, but you're reading into noise. Anyone can reproduce an image anyone else made by only knowing the model checkpoint, positive and negative prompt, seed, sampler and sampling steps, &c &c they used. (Well, in principle, and usually in practice too. Interfaces might give different results now compared to a version from a few months ago because implementations of certain things changed, or if you use xformers then all your outputs are slightly non-deterministic, other exceptions that prove the rule like that.) Some prompts I've come up with generate excellent and definitely novel results (without necessarily much work put into refining the prompt), others are extremely hard to get working well with hours of work even if I know it's something that isn't novel.
- MacsHeadroom 4y ago> The results are absolutely atrocious in the beginning and it takes many many runs short and long, with seeds guiding the model to get closer and closer to what I ask. It took a long time to get one instance of SD to make the invention look plausible, and then trying on a new model copy/instance takes the results back to crap. This is simply not how any of this works and is only your imagination. Stable Diffusion is deterministic and has no instance memory. The seeds are random and length of session or starting a new instance has no effect on the randomness of seeds. Every seed is as random as the last, regardless of how long an instance has been running.