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Please stop calling MS SQL Server just "sql server". It's just as ridiculous as calling MS Internet Explorer just "internet".

jonknee 15y ago
No, it would be like calling Microsoft Internet Explorer just "Internet Explorer". That's what most people call it.
- frou_dh 15y ago
  If IE were called "Web Browser", I think we'd feel the need to prefix it with MS.
  - andreadallera 15y ago
    At least in my community, when you talk about "sql server" it's obvious that you're talking about MS SQL Server. In the same way, postgreSQL is "postgres" and Oracle Database is just "oracle".
    - frou_dh 15y ago
      That community being people who already know about the brand. I say it every day at work, too, but the OP still has a valid point for public discussion.
      - dextorious 15y ago
        No, he has not. "sql server" is just the product's name, it's not a generic category of servers. We call the generic category "SQL Server" belongs to: database servers, or relational database servers. No one uses "sql server" for something besides naming that specific MS product.
        frou_dh 15y ago
        Fair enough. I still think it's hard to say how confusing it is to those not familiar with the brand.
        Sapient 15y ago
        People not familiar is Microsoft are probably not taking part in a discussion on HackerNews, let alone a discussion of why their SQL Server product was not ported to *nix.
        Confusion 15y ago
        I don't know about your culture, but I've never heard anyone use 'sql server' when they meant 'the database server'. You just don't call it that. I also think it's a pretty dumb product name. You might as well call a web server 'html server'.
syncopate 15y ago
Especially since there's also Sybase SQL server, on which MS SQL Server was originally based on, and which actually ran on Unix just fine...
- bsg75 15y ago
  It still does, under a new name Adaptive Server.
dmoney 15y ago
At least he's not just calling it "SQL", like certain people at my job do.

jonknee 15y ago

No, it would be like calling Microsoft Internet Explorer just "Internet Explorer". That's what most people call it.

frou_dh 15y ago
If IE were called "Web Browser", I think we'd feel the need to prefix it with MS.
- andreadallera 15y ago
  At least in my community, when you talk about "sql server" it's obvious that you're talking about MS SQL Server. In the same way, postgreSQL is "postgres" and Oracle Database is just "oracle".
  - frou_dh 15y ago
    That community being people who already know about the brand. I say it every day at work, too, but the OP still has a valid point for public discussion.
    - dextorious 15y ago
      No, he has not. "sql server" is just the product's name, it's not a generic category of servers. We call the generic category "SQL Server" belongs to: database servers, or relational database servers. No one uses "sql server" for something besides naming that specific MS product.
      - frou_dh 15y ago
        Fair enough. I still think it's hard to say how confusing it is to those not familiar with the brand.
        Sapient 15y ago
        People not familiar is Microsoft are probably not taking part in a discussion on HackerNews, let alone a discussion of why their SQL Server product was not ported to *nix.
        Confusion 15y ago
        I don't know about your culture, but I've never heard anyone use 'sql server' when they meant 'the database server'. You just don't call it that. I also think it's a pretty dumb product name. You might as well call a web server 'html server'.

syncopate 15y ago

Especially since there's also Sybase SQL server, on which MS SQL Server was originally based on, and which actually ran on Unix just fine...

bsg75 15y ago
It still does, under a new name Adaptive Server.

dmoney 15y ago

At least he's not just calling it "SQL", like certain people at my job do.