3 ms·

For many people that commute is 4 hours a day depending upon traffic. And then small failures in highway system can cause large delays for innumerable people j

by bb88 4y ago

For many people that commute is 4 hours a day depending upon traffic. And then small failures in highway system can cause large delays for innumerable people just trying to get to work. > Was work socialization even that good? Yes and no. I have friends I met from going into the office. But most were still "work" friends -- people I wouldn't have socialized with had it not been for working at the same company. But for me the inane inter cubicle chatter is gone, and I can focus on getting work done first.

inferiorhuman 4y ago
And then small failures in highway system That sounds more like an infrastructure failure and an unwillingness to live near work than a failure of RTO. As much as HN seems to love shitting all over Muni and BART, I generally enjoyed my commute downtown. At one job it meant I got a chance to walk through the Castro in the morning, maybe stop off for a Whiz burger and banana shake if I was making a late appearance. When I was working further down Market the ride gave me an opportunity to interact with (and I know this is terrifying for many) people. E.g. I ran into my barber from high school, someone I went to K-12 with, a friend I hadn't seen in a few years, another ex-KDE contributor, etc. Hell, my commute gave me the opportunity to find and utilize an independent pharmacy – they were more of a community center than some automatons dispensing pills. Commuting via automobile sounds torturous by comparison, especially if you're spending two hours in traffic.
- bb88 4y ago
  > That sounds more like an infrastructure failure It is but one fender bender can back up traffic for hours. We can argue about whether public transportation is good or not. We can argue for denser housing in urban centers and hope to win over the nimby's. The solutions we're proposing now would have been good 40 years ago, maybe? Now you need a solution for 40 years of population growth for these urban metro areas, and that won't be cheap, and it won't be free of NIMBY politics.

by bb88 4y ago

inferiorhuman 4y ago

And then small failures in highway system That sounds more like an infrastructure failure and an unwillingness to live near work than a failure of RTO. As much as HN seems to love shitting all over Muni and BART, I generally enjoyed my commute downtown. At one job it meant I got a chance to walk through the Castro in the morning, maybe stop off for a Whiz burger and banana shake if I was making a late appearance. When I was working further down Market the ride gave me an opportunity to interact with (and I know this is terrifying for many) people. E.g. I ran into my barber from high school, someone I went to K-12 with, a friend I hadn't seen in a few years, another ex-KDE contributor, etc. Hell, my commute gave me the opportunity to find and utilize an independent pharmacy – they were more of a community center than some automatons dispensing pills. Commuting via automobile sounds torturous by comparison, especially if you're spending two hours in traffic.

bb88 4y ago
> That sounds more like an infrastructure failure It is but one fender bender can back up traffic for hours. We can argue about whether public transportation is good or not. We can argue for denser housing in urban centers and hope to win over the nimby's. The solutions we're proposing now would have been good 40 years ago, maybe? Now you need a solution for 40 years of population growth for these urban metro areas, and that won't be cheap, and it won't be free of NIMBY politics.