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The article says that the grenade's travel distance is measured by counting its rotations, implying that the barrel is, in fact, rifled. (Maybe that doesn't te

The article says that the grenade's travel distance is measured by counting its rotations, implying that the barrel is, in fact, rifled. (Maybe that doesn't technically make it a rifle, but it doesn't seem like a terribly inaccurate term.)

Sharlin 15y ago
Technically true; however, in practice, you must rifle the barrel of any grenade launcher, or else have tail fins on the grenades to prevent aerodynamic tumbling. Tank guns, cannons, howitzers, and the like typically have rifled barrels but we don't call them rifles. (Mortars, on the other hand, use finned ordnance.) AFAIK rifles are usually defined to have a caliber at most 20mm.
- arethuza 15y ago
  I thought that tank guns these days are usually smoothbore rather than rifled - with the notable exception of the British Challenger 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2
  - GraemeL 15y ago
    True, but the smooth-bore guns used in most other tanks all fire fin-stabilised rounds.
  - tsotha 15y ago
    The British have been trying to replace that rifled gun with the German L/55 smoothbore, too, but they don't have the money. It wasn't clear at the time the tank was designed, but the rifled barrel turns out to have been a mistake. The round for which it was primarily designed (High Explosive Squash Head, or HESH) hit a sort of technical dead end with the introduction of spall liners and layered composites in tank armor. Read the comment by Steven Den Beste, who explains the situation pretty well (aside from getting the HESH acronym wrong): http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/2010/01/challenger-v-abrams-who-wins.html http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/20...
- Cushman 15y ago
  Ah, but we do. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoilless_rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoilless_rifle .
  - cabalamat 15y ago
    Most of which, ironically, are smoothbores.

Sharlin 15y ago

Technically true; however, in practice, you must rifle the barrel of any grenade launcher, or else have tail fins on the grenades to prevent aerodynamic tumbling. Tank guns, cannons, howitzers, and the like typically have rifled barrels but we don't call them rifles. (Mortars, on the other hand, use finned ordnance.) AFAIK rifles are usually defined to have a caliber at most 20mm.

arethuza 15y ago
I thought that tank guns these days are usually smoothbore rather than rifled - with the notable exception of the British Challenger 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2
- GraemeL 15y ago
  True, but the smooth-bore guns used in most other tanks all fire fin-stabilised rounds.
- tsotha 15y ago
  The British have been trying to replace that rifled gun with the German L/55 smoothbore, too, but they don't have the money. It wasn't clear at the time the tank was designed, but the rifled barrel turns out to have been a mistake. The round for which it was primarily designed (High Explosive Squash Head, or HESH) hit a sort of technical dead end with the introduction of spall liners and layered composites in tank armor. Read the comment by Steven Den Beste, who explains the situation pretty well (aside from getting the HESH acronym wrong): http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/2010/01/challenger-v-abrams-who-wins.html http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/20...
Cushman 15y ago
Ah, but we do. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoilless_rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoilless_rifle .
- cabalamat 15y ago
  Most of which, ironically, are smoothbores.