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Problem is genetics is messy as the article states, and we have a long way to go to unentangle the role the environment plays, plus there are always unpredictab

Problem is genetics is messy as the article states, and we have a long way to go to unentangle the role the environment plays, plus there are always unpredictable environmental factors. There’s also the possibility of negative side effects to certain genetic advantages. You might predispose your child to being a genius and mentally ill. I don’t think the movie’s caste system is realistic, because the role of genes isn’t that deterministic. There would be too many exceptions like Ethan Hawke and Jude Law’s characters.

wonderwonder 4y ago
While I don't disagree with you based on today's genetic mastery I think things could look very different in 25 years. Also all of human history is essentially different castes deciding they are better and society adapting to it.
- goatlover 4y ago
  And what if in 25 years we're able to show that environmental factors are more important than genetic for a majority of things?
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    Lol, then I guess it doesn't come to pass
deadbeeves 4y ago
>I don’t think the movie’s caste system is realistic, because the role of genes isn’t that deterministic. When your entire society is structured around covertly filtering out people with the wrong genes, you end up with a self-fulfilling prophecy. Natural-born people can't succeed because they've been predicted they won't succeed, and engineered people succeed because they've been predicted they will succeed. I'm not even saying this happens because someone wants it to happen like this to maintain the status quo. It can happen because your peers push you in a direction that aligns with society. Also, if you think about it, the movie never directly states that engineered people are actually "better". Sure, they're on average taller, with perfect eyesight, and with the lowest chance of developing certain conditions, but they're not necessarily smarter or stronger; they're just as smart or as strong as they could have been given their parents. The space program was filled with "the best", but we don't actually know if it would have operated worse with a mixer personnel, that's just what the administration believed.

wonderwonder 4y ago

While I don't disagree with you based on today's genetic mastery I think things could look very different in 25 years. Also all of human history is essentially different castes deciding they are better and society adapting to it.

goatlover 4y ago
And what if in 25 years we're able to show that environmental factors are more important than genetic for a majority of things?
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  Lol, then I guess it doesn't come to pass

deadbeeves 4y ago

>I don’t think the movie’s caste system is realistic, because the role of genes isn’t that deterministic. When your entire society is structured around covertly filtering out people with the wrong genes, you end up with a self-fulfilling prophecy. Natural-born people can't succeed because they've been predicted they won't succeed, and engineered people succeed because they've been predicted they will succeed. I'm not even saying this happens because someone wants it to happen like this to maintain the status quo. It can happen because your peers push you in a direction that aligns with society. Also, if you think about it, the movie never directly states that engineered people are actually "better". Sure, they're on average taller, with perfect eyesight, and with the lowest chance of developing certain conditions, but they're not necessarily smarter or stronger; they're just as smart or as strong as they could have been given their parents. The space program was filled with "the best", but we don't actually know if it would have operated worse with a mixer personnel, that's just what the administration believed.