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So I'm supposed to deal with the hassle of commuting, losing hours of my day, because YOU are starved for human connections? Get out of here...

by krippe 4y ago

Gigachad 4y ago
Gen Z and A are going to have serious problems. Work and School are biggest sources of friends. The two things they missed out on. I doubt many friends were made in the chat box of an online class.
- kelnos 4y ago
  School goes on until you're 18 or so (and even later if you go to university). Two-ish years of online schooling certainly hurt a bit, but is a small percentage of available childhood socialization time.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    It’s so many small things chipping away at young people’s social lives, car dependant design, remote schooling, remote work, the loss of public spaces and facilities, social media, etc. We can see the trend, young people are constantly getting more lonely and isolated, but we only make changes that make it worse.
- juve1996 4y ago
  Feels like a major overreaction. > I doubt many friends were made in the chat box of an online class. Many people became friends online. We have apps, for meeting people, online, and THEN dating them.
- erenyeager 4y ago
  Actually I’ve seen kids share Roblox usernames through zoom chat boxes and then socialize via zoom calls while they play an online game on their iPads… it is totally possible to socialize, it just starts online now
matrisking 4y ago
Yeesh. Who said you're supposed to do anything?
- kelnos 4y ago
  Literally everyone in these threads advocating for a return to office?
  - matrisking 4y ago
    Not the OP on this thread. It looks like they were just sharing their feelings/experiences without proposing any policy changes. I don't see a reason for anyone to adopt a tone.
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krabizzwainch 4y ago
If you care that little about the social interaction at work, then you probably aren't someone that we are talking about or miss working with...
- whynaut 4y ago
  And yet you have an issue with them not wanting to come in!
  - krabizzwainch 4y ago
    I literally never said that.
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i_r7al 4y ago
same to your argument, why is it my problem that you live far away from work, that you need to hassle and lose hours of your day commuting? live right next to work. It's not our problem that it's a hassle to you. Same if you have kids .. etc. It's not our problem. It's comfortable for YOU to work remotely but it's more comfortable to ME to work from office. Comfort here is always subjective to the choice you prefer.
- earthling8118 4y ago
  So we should all go through the hassle of relocating closer to work each time we switch jobs just because it makes it more comfortable for office minded people? You can try to swing the argument the other way but there's no getting around that the opposite side of yours doesn't involve other people doing extra things for other people's comfort-- requiring the office adds extra things to EVERYONE while allowing remote allows savings for the people who care to. I don't want to relocate myself to be next to some office. I work on a computer specifically because I can do it from wherever feels right to me. You're right that it isn't your problem that it's a hassle for me: because that mindset is making it MY problem when I don't want it to be. That argument is an incredibly selfish one.
- juve1996 4y ago
  It's not the same argument. > why is it my problem that you live far away from work, that you need to hassle and lose hours of your day commuting? It's not. Work from homers aren't forcing office people to do anything. On the other hand, office people want other office people back.
- boring_twenties 4y ago
  OK so you work from office, and I'll work from home, what's the problem?
- fennecfoxy 4y ago
  Lmao that's not an equivalent argument at all. One is you _forcing_ me to do something (come into the office). The other is me not forcing you to do anything. The company is the one making you stay at home. Sure, we all go back to work in an office. Hurray! Is the company going to force everyone there to be best buddies with you as well? What if nobody in the office likes you? Is it now company policy to be friends with everyone?
shepherdjerred 4y ago
You might be underestimating the impact this has. I don't know you; maybe you don't desire interaction as much, or maybe you just didn't take the time to really digest what the parent said. For many people, it is really hard to be new in a city. Some people have _no idea_ how to make friends out of college. With remote work this becomes so much harder. This doesn't necessarily mean that _you_ should be forced to go to the office as a solution. I'm just saying that this can be a really big problem, especially if your team is full of people in a new city.

So I'm supposed to deal with the hassle of commuting, losing hours of my day, because YOU are starved for human connections? Get out of here...

by krippe 4y ago

So I'm supposed to deal with the hassle of commuting, losing hours of my day, because YOU are starved for human connections? Get out of here...

Gigachad 4y ago

Gen Z and A are going to have serious problems. Work and School are biggest sources of friends. The two things they missed out on. I doubt many friends were made in the chat box of an online class.

kelnos 4y ago
School goes on until you're 18 or so (and even later if you go to university). Two-ish years of online schooling certainly hurt a bit, but is a small percentage of available childhood socialization time.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  It’s so many small things chipping away at young people’s social lives, car dependant design, remote schooling, remote work, the loss of public spaces and facilities, social media, etc. We can see the trend, young people are constantly getting more lonely and isolated, but we only make changes that make it worse.
juve1996 4y ago
Feels like a major overreaction. > I doubt many friends were made in the chat box of an online class. Many people became friends online. We have apps, for meeting people, online, and THEN dating them.
erenyeager 4y ago
Actually I’ve seen kids share Roblox usernames through zoom chat boxes and then socialize via zoom calls while they play an online game on their iPads… it is totally possible to socialize, it just starts online now

matrisking 4y ago

Yeesh. Who said you're supposed to do anything?

kelnos 4y ago
Literally everyone in these threads advocating for a return to office?
- matrisking 4y ago
  Not the OP on this thread. It looks like they were just sharing their feelings/experiences without proposing any policy changes. I don't see a reason for anyone to adopt a tone.

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krabizzwainch 4y ago

If you care that little about the social interaction at work, then you probably aren't someone that we are talking about or miss working with...

whynaut 4y ago
And yet you have an issue with them not wanting to come in!
- krabizzwainch 4y ago
  I literally never said that.
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i_r7al 4y ago

same to your argument, why is it my problem that you live far away from work, that you need to hassle and lose hours of your day commuting? live right next to work. It's not our problem that it's a hassle to you. Same if you have kids .. etc. It's not our problem. It's comfortable for YOU to work remotely but it's more comfortable to ME to work from office. Comfort here is always subjective to the choice you prefer.

earthling8118 4y ago
So we should all go through the hassle of relocating closer to work each time we switch jobs just because it makes it more comfortable for office minded people? You can try to swing the argument the other way but there's no getting around that the opposite side of yours doesn't involve other people doing extra things for other people's comfort-- requiring the office adds extra things to EVERYONE while allowing remote allows savings for the people who care to. I don't want to relocate myself to be next to some office. I work on a computer specifically because I can do it from wherever feels right to me. You're right that it isn't your problem that it's a hassle for me: because that mindset is making it MY problem when I don't want it to be. That argument is an incredibly selfish one.
juve1996 4y ago
It's not the same argument. > why is it my problem that you live far away from work, that you need to hassle and lose hours of your day commuting? It's not. Work from homers aren't forcing office people to do anything. On the other hand, office people want other office people back.
boring_twenties 4y ago
OK so you work from office, and I'll work from home, what's the problem?
fennecfoxy 4y ago
Lmao that's not an equivalent argument at all. One is you _forcing_ me to do something (come into the office). The other is me not forcing you to do anything. The company is the one making you stay at home. Sure, we all go back to work in an office. Hurray! Is the company going to force everyone there to be best buddies with you as well? What if nobody in the office likes you? Is it now company policy to be friends with everyone?

shepherdjerred 4y ago

You might be underestimating the impact this has. I don't know you; maybe you don't desire interaction as much, or maybe you just didn't take the time to really digest what the parent said. For many people, it is really hard to be new in a city. Some people have _no idea_ how to make friends out of college. With remote work this becomes so much harder. This doesn't necessarily mean that _you_ should be forced to go to the office as a solution. I'm just saying that this can be a really big problem, especially if your team is full of people in a new city.