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Vista had a lot of genuine security improvements for corporates, the extent to which you could create a much more reliable environment with judicious use of gro
by mst 4y ago
Vista had a lot of genuine security improvements for corporates, the extent to which you could create a much more reliable environment with judicious use of group policy was actually genuinely impressive.
Honestly, apart from the horrible mistake they made around UAC prompting, most of the rough edges didn't bother me and once I got used to it and could just follow the paths I'd beaten previously to get it to do what I wanted it to, for me it was "mostly just another slightly different Windows UI atop a kernel+OS layer that for my purposes appeared to Just Work.
I am well aware this was not the experience a lot of people had with Vista.
- fishtacos 4y agoWhat horrible mistake was made with UAC prompting? The alternative is admin-privileged programs do not run. See Linux and sudo for an actual terrible decision in privilege escalation in terms of desktop usage.
- mavhc 4y agoVista prompted for everything, so much so you'd get fatigued and auto click yes, making it useless. What's up with sudo?
- fishtacos 4y agoSudo is unusable in a GUI. Simple as that. It's unintuitive to create a user with sudo rights, and it is unintuitive to run a program with admin rights in a DE. Vista upgraded the security expectations, although rather harshly compared to XP, but much more useful than anything Linux had or still has. Being prompted vs. looking up commands in manpages/wikis/blogs are two very different things. Pretending that blindly typing "sudo" in a terminal prompt anytime a command doesn't work without it doesn't make it any better than UAC.
- mavhc 4y agoIf I try to run, say, software updates on Ubuntu, it prompts me for my password/fingerprint, isn't that the same?
- fishtacos 4y agoI imagine usability might've changed over time, but in my default Ubuntu DE I can't run an app as Admin via a "Run As" option. Have to delve into config files to change either shortcut properties or to manually create a "Run As" option. As far as prompts go - why does Chrome/Chromium prompt me on a clean install for a gpg key ring password upon every run? Is that not worse Than Vista? My point is, Linux, even at its most refined, most popular version, lags behind Vista.
- mavhc 4y agoI've not seen that Chrome prompt. I guess you can't run things as root, but I've never noticed before now, guess I've never needed to