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There's loads of those? Kinesis Freestyle, Matias Ergo Pro, Mistel Barocco, Cloud Nine ErgoFS. You could also build one. A split keyboard only addresses one or

There's loads of those? Kinesis Freestyle, Matias Ergo Pro, Mistel Barocco, Cloud Nine ErgoFS. You could also build one. A split keyboard only addresses one or two problems. The US QWERTY layout is objectively awful and there's loads of room for improvement. Even adding a single modifier key instead of the massively useless space bar is a huge improvement but people are married to the idea we must alternate thumbs to space because 60 years ago it actually took effort to do.

whitemary 4y ago
Kenesis Freestyle (tested) - NOT multi-platform, "Mac" version has no function key Matias Ergo Pro (not tested) - NOT multi-platform, A lot of non-standard key placement and spacing Mistel (tested) - Like I said, this is the best option Cloud Nine (tested) - NOT multi-platform, ridiculous footprint will hardly even fit on my desk WITHOUT a mouse, countless unnecessary features, I do have a friend who loves this keyboard but even they agree that they should have better options
- goosedragons 4y ago
  Matias Ergo Pro absolutely is cross platform. There's a DIP switch under right CMD or alt and you can swap between Mac/PC. I've done this. I'm not even sure how beneficial "cross platform" is when you can just swap modifier controls on the Mac (the problem platform) anyways? Did you try the Kinesis Freestyle PRO? They advertise advertise Mac and Windows support while the NON-pro is Windows or Mac. The function key isn't a real key either. It's a key to do something on the keyboard itself. Plenty of Mac keyboards made by Apple even don't have one. Considering the "non-standard" key placements on these keybaords are about as big of a change as the average laptop and the Cloud Nine literally has a standard PC layout so I think you're just really picky. Maybe just build one?
2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
The Matias has weird function keys on the left side and seems quite asymmetric. The Mistel is the best, off the shelf, not too expensive split keyboard. If money is no object, the UHK is what I would buy. The thumb clusters are optional and modular. I wish there was a more affordable split keyboard.

whitemary 4y ago

Kenesis Freestyle (tested) - NOT multi-platform, "Mac" version has no function key Matias Ergo Pro (not tested) - NOT multi-platform, A lot of non-standard key placement and spacing Mistel (tested) - Like I said, this is the best option Cloud Nine (tested) - NOT multi-platform, ridiculous footprint will hardly even fit on my desk WITHOUT a mouse, countless unnecessary features, I do have a friend who loves this keyboard but even they agree that they should have better options

goosedragons 4y ago
Matias Ergo Pro absolutely is cross platform. There's a DIP switch under right CMD or alt and you can swap between Mac/PC. I've done this. I'm not even sure how beneficial "cross platform" is when you can just swap modifier controls on the Mac (the problem platform) anyways? Did you try the Kinesis Freestyle PRO? They advertise advertise Mac and Windows support while the NON-pro is Windows or Mac. The function key isn't a real key either. It's a key to do something on the keyboard itself. Plenty of Mac keyboards made by Apple even don't have one. Considering the "non-standard" key placements on these keybaords are about as big of a change as the average laptop and the Cloud Nine literally has a standard PC layout so I think you're just really picky. Maybe just build one?

2muchcoffeeman 4y ago

The Matias has weird function keys on the left side and seems quite asymmetric. The Mistel is the best, off the shelf, not too expensive split keyboard. If money is no object, the UHK is what I would buy. The thumb clusters are optional and modular. I wish there was a more affordable split keyboard.