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> AI is not reusing copyrighted material. It's learning from it in the same way humans do. What will AI learn from if Getty no longer exists?
by mrkeen 4y ago
> AI is not reusing copyrighted material. It's learning from it in the same way humans do.
What will AI learn from if Getty no longer exists?
- echelon 4y agoLots of businesses fail when new disruptive technology arrives. We don't need to prop up the old at the expense of the new. This is like crying over Rolodex. And let's not forget how awful Getty has been throughout its existence. They've frequently sued people for things they didn't even own the copyright to.
- TillE 4y agoThat doesn't answer the question. In the hypothetical future where such companies no longer exist, where is the new AI training data supposed to come from?
- yellow_postit 4y agoHow is this not a bootstrapping problem and after a certain point they can train on their own output? Novelty of subject will likely get covered by partially unwitting data gatherers (eg google photos)
- mrkeen 4y ago> They're selling knitting needles in the era of robotic manufacturing. They're teachers in the age of students. > We don't need to prop up the old at the expense of the new. We don't need to pay teachers when we can just profit by charging students tuition.
- newswasboring 4y ago> They're teachers in the age of students. This is a very good quote, but unfortunately I fail to grasp it. Care to elaborate?
- GaggiX 4y agoIf in the future AI images are as good as Getty's, will new AIs really need to learn from Getty?
- munchler 4y agoWould you want an AI trained on images from no later than, say, 1973? No? People 50 years from now will feel the same way. Without new images to learn from, I don't see how future AI's of this kind could know anything about their own era.
- GaggiX 4y agoBut the models are already here, you can distill their knowledge if you want to train a new one, human feedback could also improve model performance without adding training data. >Without new images to learn from Even in the event that all cameras are destroyed (somehow), people will use generative models to describe their experience in a new era, and then this new knowledge will be used by new models and the cycle will repeat itself.