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I'm working within minutes of waking up, and shower during my lunch break -- taking about 20 minutes total, instead of the hour spent on an office lunch. I tak
by klyrs 4y ago
I'm working within minutes of waking up, and shower during my lunch break -- taking about 20 minutes total, instead of the hour spent on an office lunch. I take a minute or ten to do chores like laundry, meal prep or dishes, usually no more than twice a day -- in the office, I take similar length breaks and often end up socializing with others. I often find overlooked solutions during my breaks, which are spaced out to prevent eye, neck and wrist strain, or to blow off frustration with a difficult issue. That isn't abusing WFH, it's using time wisely. I can't speak for the people ghosting, but doing chores is not abusing WFH.
- treis 4y ago>That isn't abusing WFH Did anyone say it was?
- klyrs 4y agoYour words. > I think a lot of people are abusing WFH. Some make it obvious like doing meal prep during refinement... What does "it" refer to in that sentence, if not the immediately preceding "abusing WFH?"
- treis 4y agoWhich of the things you mentioned are equivalent to doing a distracting task during a meeting you're supposed to be paying attention to?
- cweagans 4y agoYou may be surprised to know that one can do meal prep and pay attention to sprint refinement at the same time. For me, having something to do with my hands while talking helps to keep me focused.
- treis 4y agoYou're supposed to be actively participating in refinement. Reading the story being talked about, looking up documentation, checking on potential solutions, and other things of that nature. You can't do that with raw chicken on your hands or while walking to the fridge to get veggies. The fact that this has to be explained to people is why there's a push to return to the office.
- cweagans 4y agoMaybe put your condescension away for a second and try to understand a different perspective. Your refinements work a little different than mine. In mine, the SME or the person who opened the issue (often the same person) reads the story, gives any extra context, answers questions, etc., we assign a point value, and move on. Refinement can be a discussion -- it doesn't always have to be a research session.
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- klyrs 4y ago> You're supposed to be actively participating in refinement. Reading the story being talked about, looking up documentation, checking on potential solutions, and other things of that nature. That's a load of context that wasn't clear from your original comment. The jargon "refinement" is not used where I work. > The fact that this has to be explained to people is why there's a push to return to the office. That you then need to backfill assumed context is not going to be solved by returning to office. That it's now been clarified in text, in a work situation, could be turned into a resource to be referenced in a future conversation. In the office, the explanation would be ephemeral, and may need frequent repetition until somebody overcomes the hurdle of committing it to text.
- treis 4y agoI'm not sure how this context is relevant. The point is that you're supposed to be paying attention and I've not yet met a human that can pay attention to two things at once as well as they can to one. I've met a lot that think they can but not any that actually could. This is why return to office is an attractive option. People are definitely not bringing veggies to chop or laundry to fold to a conference room. And most of them are going to pay attention to a person in their presence talking to them because of basic social niceties. It solves the problem with much less hassle than actually having to identify and cull people who can't handle WFH.
- klyrs 4y agoI can talk and listen while chopping veg, but okay
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- Ensorceled 4y ago"A lot of people are abusing WFH" doesn't mean "all" so ask yourself why you are assuming this internet stranger has unfairly lumped you, personally and specifically, into the "abusing" group and taking offense?
- klyrs 4y agoThanks, this made me laugh out loud. Of course I feel guilty every time I step away from work. That doesn't make the reflex healthy or sustainable.