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I wonder if there is risk that a typical hiring manager would consider three letter agency experience to be a red flag if they disagree with the agency’s behavi

I wonder if there is risk that a typical hiring manager would consider three letter agency experience to be a red flag if they disagree with the agency’s behavior

rightbyte 4y ago
I would certainly not want to work with a former CIA employee. The others I would probably be fine with.
- to11mtm 4y ago
  The concern with a former CIA employee is that the concern they are not truly a 'former' CIA employee is much higher. Although, ex-mil psyops are not much lower on the list...
metadat 4y ago
It makes sense that some folks may not have favorable opinions of government employment. At the same time, it's worth considering alternate perspectives, too. Any single grunt worker has little hope to sway the trajectory of top-down mandates at federal security agencies. Even if the individual disagrees with the decree. Should similar forms of micro-judgement stemming from macro concerns also be applied to candidates from other industries such as adult entertainment or legal cannabis operations? Edit: blep_, all salient points, thanks for sharing.
- blep_ 4y ago
  If you think those things are as immoral as what the NSA does (I don't), then yes, that seems like a conclusion you might reach. But it doesn't actually matter: we're talking about "are there people who believe this and will that belief negatively affect me", not "should those people believe this".
PragmaticPulp 4y ago
In the real world, I haven't known many hiring managers who would discriminate based on former employment. Hiring managers need to build out their team with whoever will do the best job. You aren't entering into a relationship with their former employer, you're hiring the employee for what they can do for you. HN commenters might say they'll discriminate against FAANG employees or NSA employees or otherwise hold weird grudges against employees of companies they don't like, but that's mostly just internet bluster. Real hiring managers (that you'd actually want to work for) aren't going to discriminate against good candidates just because they worked for a big company that the hiring manager doesn't like. I suppose there are exceptions to this. If you were head of financial controls at FTX, you're in trouble. But if you were a front-end developer at FTX and you do good work, I'm not going to hold FTX's failure against you.

I wonder if there is risk that a typical hiring manager would consider three letter agency experience to be a red flag if they disagree with the agency’s behavior

rightbyte 4y ago

I would certainly not want to work with a former CIA employee. The others I would probably be fine with.

to11mtm 4y ago
The concern with a former CIA employee is that the concern they are not truly a 'former' CIA employee is much higher. Although, ex-mil psyops are not much lower on the list...

metadat 4y ago

It makes sense that some folks may not have favorable opinions of government employment. At the same time, it's worth considering alternate perspectives, too. Any single grunt worker has little hope to sway the trajectory of top-down mandates at federal security agencies. Even if the individual disagrees with the decree. Should similar forms of micro-judgement stemming from macro concerns also be applied to candidates from other industries such as adult entertainment or legal cannabis operations? Edit: blep_, all salient points, thanks for sharing.

blep_ 4y ago
If you think those things are as immoral as what the NSA does (I don't), then yes, that seems like a conclusion you might reach. But it doesn't actually matter: we're talking about "are there people who believe this and will that belief negatively affect me", not "should those people believe this".

PragmaticPulp 4y ago

In the real world, I haven't known many hiring managers who would discriminate based on former employment. Hiring managers need to build out their team with whoever will do the best job. You aren't entering into a relationship with their former employer, you're hiring the employee for what they can do for you. HN commenters might say they'll discriminate against FAANG employees or NSA employees or otherwise hold weird grudges against employees of companies they don't like, but that's mostly just internet bluster. Real hiring managers (that you'd actually want to work for) aren't going to discriminate against good candidates just because they worked for a big company that the hiring manager doesn't like. I suppose there are exceptions to this. If you were head of financial controls at FTX, you're in trouble. But if you were a front-end developer at FTX and you do good work, I'm not going to hold FTX's failure against you.