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I think what bothers us most about incidents like this is that any country or human organization that had massive air superiority over everyone else would inevi

by mabbo 4y ago

I think what bothers us most about incidents like this is that any country or human organization that had massive air superiority over everyone else would inevitably use it to their advantage. And yet, here are the reports, but no one is coming forward to say "yes, we Canadians actually never cancelled the Avro Arrow and have been decades ahead of the rest of you all this time- now please remove that Danish flag from Hans Island". It's such a foreign idea that someone might have this advantage and not use it that the best answer we have is "I guess they aren't humans". Maybe that says a lot about us.

h2odragon 4y ago
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mxkopy 4y ago
If this technology were developed by a private individual, there's incentive to keep it hidden. No businessperson wants to have a military grade target on their back, but I feel like some are paranoid/wealthy enough to want to develop their own tech
tarkin2 4y ago
This assumes the advancements can give a significant military advantage, through cost of production and overall military effectiveness. And that the behaviour of other countries could be a problem to the manufacturing country--trade and cooperation etc. And if the advancements are used for spying then of course they'll be kept quiet for as long as possible. Showing your cards early, even if you think they're good, may not be the best approach.
- nprateem 4y ago
  They say on the nimitz video there's a whole fleet of them. This kind of tech could only come from a superpower, and you really think they wouldn't brag about it?
  - naasking 4y ago
    > This kind of tech could only come from a superpower, and you really think they wouldn't brag about it? They would not. How long were stealth bombers a closely held secret? If these are craft, then they are far beyond even that. Once you know something is possible, you're halfway to solving it. If other nations knew the US had some fantastical tech, they would up their espionage and research efforts around the specific characteristics they've seen and quickly reproduce it.
- ikrenji 4y ago
  antigravity is a civilization changing technology that has unlimited economic value. the idea that the americans would use it exclusively for spying instead of colonizing the solar system and beyond is... improbable to say the least
DangitBobby 4y ago
They demonstrate technology so advanced that it's more plausibly from another more advanced civilization than from a nation or person that lives on the same planet.
tstrimple 4y ago
The United States *does* have massive air superiority over everyone else and it's not even close. We have three times as many planes as Russia, our next closest "competitor" and we have more than the closest four (China, India and South Korea) combined. This doesn't touch on the fact that we also have the most technologically advanced air force by far and the carrier groups to support them anywhere in the world. It should surprise no one that these sightings almost exclusively happen by military personnel near military installations.

by mabbo 4y ago

h2odragon 4y ago

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mxkopy 4y ago

If this technology were developed by a private individual, there's incentive to keep it hidden. No businessperson wants to have a military grade target on their back, but I feel like some are paranoid/wealthy enough to want to develop their own tech

tarkin2 4y ago

This assumes the advancements can give a significant military advantage, through cost of production and overall military effectiveness. And that the behaviour of other countries could be a problem to the manufacturing country--trade and cooperation etc. And if the advancements are used for spying then of course they'll be kept quiet for as long as possible. Showing your cards early, even if you think they're good, may not be the best approach.

nprateem 4y ago
They say on the nimitz video there's a whole fleet of them. This kind of tech could only come from a superpower, and you really think they wouldn't brag about it?
- naasking 4y ago
  > This kind of tech could only come from a superpower, and you really think they wouldn't brag about it? They would not. How long were stealth bombers a closely held secret? If these are craft, then they are far beyond even that. Once you know something is possible, you're halfway to solving it. If other nations knew the US had some fantastical tech, they would up their espionage and research efforts around the specific characteristics they've seen and quickly reproduce it.
ikrenji 4y ago
antigravity is a civilization changing technology that has unlimited economic value. the idea that the americans would use it exclusively for spying instead of colonizing the solar system and beyond is... improbable to say the least

DangitBobby 4y ago

They demonstrate technology so advanced that it's more plausibly from another more advanced civilization than from a nation or person that lives on the same planet.

tstrimple 4y ago

The United States *does* have massive air superiority over everyone else and it's not even close. We have three times as many planes as Russia, our next closest "competitor" and we have more than the closest four (China, India and South Korea) combined. This doesn't touch on the fact that we also have the most technologically advanced air force by far and the carrier groups to support them anywhere in the world. It should surprise no one that these sightings almost exclusively happen by military personnel near military installations.