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I am also interested in the $300-500 all-in-one groovebox rivaling the OP-1 (without cow animation)

by sussmannbaka 4y ago

selykg 4y ago
Same, show me what’s out there.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  - Elektron Model: Samples - Novation Circuit - Roland MC-101 - Korg Electribe - Used Digitakt - (God forbid) Teenage Engineering OP-Z The list goes on but those are the big names. Again, I'm mostly fascinated that such a nothingburger company like TE can capture the hearts of rich people everywhere. Maybe it just goes to show that the most successful businesses aren't the ones with the best products, but with the most effective marketing and highest sex appeal.
  - psychomugs 4y ago
    >the most successful businesses aren't the ones with the best products, but with the most effective marketing and highest sex appeal. This goes without saying. Also, having owned/used over half of those on the list, none of them emulate the tape functionality, which is arguably the OP-1's killer feature in the same way that the sequencer is the OP-Z's.
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    I am not an OP-1 user nor am I a TE fanboy but I owned a Model:Samples and the simple fact that you cannot even sample on it and it doesn't have any synth capabilities cannot make it a candidate. The digitakt is not a synth either. Same with original Novation circuit and with Novation you'd have to buy both the circuit track and the circuit rhythm if my memory is correct to be able to both record/sample and use a synth. MC-101 seems completely different in term of ergonomics. I wouldn't say any of them would be an alternative. I think OP-1 is overpriced because there is nothing like it. I mean a secondhand laptop with a 69$ daw such as Reaper can do more, an MPC is more complete. But people who see the appeal of the OP-1 probably already have a computer and a DAW so this is not what they are looking for. They want a toy to make music. I am not in the market for such a thing but I guess it is not that overpriced if some people are willing to buy it at this price.
sowbug 4y ago
https://dirtywave.com/ https://dirtywave.com/ Close enough.
- MetaWhirledPeas 4y ago
  That's a $600 product. Perhaps less expensive but not not-expensive. And it lacks knobs and piano keys.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    No cow animation, either... completely unusable.
    - MetaWhirledPeas 4y ago
      I'm speaking from a place of ignorance. If the objects are so alike, care explaining how? To an outsider like me they look 100% different.
  - ilyt 4y ago
    The new OP-1 is 2000 euro. So $600 is less than half > And it lacks knobs and piano keys Well you can get like a dozen of various sized synths for that price but you'd then complain it has too many knobs and keys
- prmoustache 4y ago
  But it is successful because it is totally not an OP-1.

I am also interested in the $300-500 all-in-one groovebox rivaling the OP-1 (without cow animation)

selykg 4y ago

Same, show me what’s out there.

smoldesu 4y ago
- Elektron Model: Samples - Novation Circuit - Roland MC-101 - Korg Electribe - Used Digitakt - (God forbid) Teenage Engineering OP-Z The list goes on but those are the big names. Again, I'm mostly fascinated that such a nothingburger company like TE can capture the hearts of rich people everywhere. Maybe it just goes to show that the most successful businesses aren't the ones with the best products, but with the most effective marketing and highest sex appeal.
- psychomugs 4y ago
  >the most successful businesses aren't the ones with the best products, but with the most effective marketing and highest sex appeal. This goes without saying. Also, having owned/used over half of those on the list, none of them emulate the tape functionality, which is arguably the OP-1's killer feature in the same way that the sequencer is the OP-Z's.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  I am not an OP-1 user nor am I a TE fanboy but I owned a Model:Samples and the simple fact that you cannot even sample on it and it doesn't have any synth capabilities cannot make it a candidate. The digitakt is not a synth either. Same with original Novation circuit and with Novation you'd have to buy both the circuit track and the circuit rhythm if my memory is correct to be able to both record/sample and use a synth. MC-101 seems completely different in term of ergonomics. I wouldn't say any of them would be an alternative. I think OP-1 is overpriced because there is nothing like it. I mean a secondhand laptop with a 69$ daw such as Reaper can do more, an MPC is more complete. But people who see the appeal of the OP-1 probably already have a computer and a DAW so this is not what they are looking for. They want a toy to make music. I am not in the market for such a thing but I guess it is not that overpriced if some people are willing to buy it at this price.

sowbug 4y ago

https://dirtywave.com/ https://dirtywave.com/ Close enough.

MetaWhirledPeas 4y ago
That's a $600 product. Perhaps less expensive but not not-expensive. And it lacks knobs and piano keys.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  No cow animation, either... completely unusable.
  - MetaWhirledPeas 4y ago
    I'm speaking from a place of ignorance. If the objects are so alike, care explaining how? To an outsider like me they look 100% different.
- ilyt 4y ago
  The new OP-1 is 2000 euro. So $600 is less than half > And it lacks knobs and piano keys Well you can get like a dozen of various sized synths for that price but you'd then complain it has too many knobs and keys
prmoustache 4y ago
But it is successful because it is totally not an OP-1.