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It seems to me it does require cryptos. Which luckily are based on cryptography so we all get to like the path forward :)

by hem777 4y ago

newswasboring 4y ago
Do you have a particular use case in mind which cryptocurrency enables here? Care to give an example of how they help solve a issue?
- mattdesl 4y ago
  Two uses cases that would both be beneficial to nostr: Decentralized namespace registries - see Farcaster. Autonomous and decentralized mechanism that rewards & incentivizes users to run nodes/servers - see Ethereum staking, Filecoin.
  - leesalminen 4y ago
    No need for any of this elaborate noise. You can just charge money for services rendered like hosting your media or notes.
    - mattdesl 4y ago
      That describes most centralized services on the web today. Nostr and other decentralized protocols aren’t aiming to recreate the Twitter and Amazon model.
      - leesalminen 4y ago
        There already exist nostr user verification service providers that charge a fee for a purple checkmark, similarly to Twitter Blue.
        mattdesl 4y ago
        These services exist outside of the protocol and depend on a few centralized and trusted authorities. Another solution that is arguably more resistant to capture and censorship would be to use a blockchain to manage user name aliases - like Farcaster is doing with fnames.[1] [1] https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol#22-farcaster-names https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol#22-farcaster-names
- antisocialist 4y ago
  Gateway operators are paid to successfully process data (which they can do if they stay online, have a fast connection to the Internet, and so on - not a shitty Raspberry Pi) Gateway operators are paid to store data Gateway operators are paid to mix client-side encrypted messages and shred message metadata Gateway operators are staking their nodes to ensure cryptographically correct operation If you want to see more, spend some time reading how blockchain-based networks with incentives work.

It seems to me it does require cryptos. Which luckily are based on cryptography so we all get to like the path forward :)

by hem777 4y ago

It seems to me it does require cryptos. Which luckily are based on cryptography so we all get to like the path forward :)

newswasboring 4y ago

Do you have a particular use case in mind which cryptocurrency enables here? Care to give an example of how they help solve a issue?

mattdesl 4y ago
Two uses cases that would both be beneficial to nostr: Decentralized namespace registries - see Farcaster. Autonomous and decentralized mechanism that rewards & incentivizes users to run nodes/servers - see Ethereum staking, Filecoin.
- leesalminen 4y ago
  No need for any of this elaborate noise. You can just charge money for services rendered like hosting your media or notes.
  - mattdesl 4y ago
    That describes most centralized services on the web today. Nostr and other decentralized protocols aren’t aiming to recreate the Twitter and Amazon model.
    - leesalminen 4y ago
      There already exist nostr user verification service providers that charge a fee for a purple checkmark, similarly to Twitter Blue.
      - mattdesl 4y ago
        These services exist outside of the protocol and depend on a few centralized and trusted authorities. Another solution that is arguably more resistant to capture and censorship would be to use a blockchain to manage user name aliases - like Farcaster is doing with fnames.[1] [1] https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol#22-farcaster-names https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol#22-farcaster-names
antisocialist 4y ago
Gateway operators are paid to successfully process data (which they can do if they stay online, have a fast connection to the Internet, and so on - not a shitty Raspberry Pi) Gateway operators are paid to store data Gateway operators are paid to mix client-side encrypted messages and shred message metadata Gateway operators are staking their nodes to ensure cryptographically correct operation If you want to see more, spend some time reading how blockchain-based networks with incentives work.