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The idea people would still function while the entire east and west coast burns is the same fantasy at massive scale as people who walk around with guns thinkin

by ck2 4y ago

The idea people would still function while the entire east and west coast burns is the same fantasy at massive scale as people who walk around with guns thinking they are going to somehow defeat someone who has planned and already actively shooting at them. I believe great many ICBMs would definitely make it to major cities and that is the end of the world. We've already seen how people handle a pandemic, imagine active fallout but they cannot see the radiation. They'd be dropping like flies. Once the power and water is gone, 99% of American civilization is gone. Why do you think domestic terrorists are going after power stations (successfully so imagine national defense).

moomoo11 4y ago
I don’t believe that deploying the entire nuclear arsenal of the world would wipe humanity off the face of earth. Would it suck and render some places uninhabitable? Yes. Would it affect fresh water and air quality? You bet. But people will find a way like a worm and some will survive. I am in Bay Area so I probably won’t, but others will. What about places in Africa and South East Asia? Probably will be “fine”. Besides, earth has been through worse. Many species went extinct. But many survived. Humans are definitely the best species this planet has ever produced (that we know of). Again, it’s about survival of specific few. As for the power station stuff I will have to read up on it. I wasn’t aware that is going on. Thanks for pointing that out.
- 10u152 4y ago
  100% agree. The developed world might be deleted but there will be plenty of tribes in Africa/SE Asia etc who will pretty much continue unaffected. Except those bothersome missionaries will stop coming around. The human race will continue though.
  - moomoo11 4y ago
    Yeah. I’d be pretty bummed to go that way though. It makes me sad and I hope it doesn’t happen.
- yawpitch 4y ago
  > Humans are definitely the best species this planet has ever produced (that we know of). It’s certainly the most solipsistic… and, likely not coincidentally, it’s the only one that has developed the capacity to make the entire planet functionally uninhabitable to its own species. Also tardigrades will definitely outlast the human species… as will rats, cockroaches, and those mouth-less tube worms that cluster around deep sea vents… the only question is how soon will they have outlasted us?
  - moomoo11 4y ago
    I don’t see rats sending devices outside the solar system nor do I see roaches developing modern medicine or heavy industry. We are the best product made on earth and just because some of us are assholes doesn’t mean all of us are. Of all the species so far we have the most potential. Humans surviving would be a way more valuable proposition than some rodents who cannibalize each other because they don’t know any better. We will nuke each other but at least we were able to also develop so much more positive things too. And thankfully there are way more awesome and good people in the world. Just leadership is wack lol.
    - yawpitch 4y ago
      “We” aren’t products, we’re accidents; accidents that, oddly, once looked very much like rats — implying that today’s rats have at least as much potential as today’s humans, should the humans in their ignorance and stupidity clear the path for them — and we _still_ spend a great deal of time cannibalizing each other because we don’t know any better… and though we are indeed capable of great things we are equally if not more capable of terrible things, and history — not to mention the brutally delusional sense of self-importance inherent in thinking we’re the best bet the earth’s made — does not imply the balance remaining on the great side for long.
- bbor 4y ago
  You should read “A Canticle for Lebowitz” :)
  - moomoo11 4y ago
    Thanks! Will do. Seems interesting I just read the Wikipedia article.
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zikduruqe 4y ago
Yep. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4922079-one-second-after https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4922079-one-second-after I used to consult and teach various preparedness and emergency topics, and people always asked me what my favorite "survival manual" was. One Second After is.

by ck2 4y ago

moomoo11 4y ago

I don’t believe that deploying the entire nuclear arsenal of the world would wipe humanity off the face of earth. Would it suck and render some places uninhabitable? Yes. Would it affect fresh water and air quality? You bet. But people will find a way like a worm and some will survive. I am in Bay Area so I probably won’t, but others will. What about places in Africa and South East Asia? Probably will be “fine”. Besides, earth has been through worse. Many species went extinct. But many survived. Humans are definitely the best species this planet has ever produced (that we know of). Again, it’s about survival of specific few. As for the power station stuff I will have to read up on it. I wasn’t aware that is going on. Thanks for pointing that out.

10u152 4y ago
100% agree. The developed world might be deleted but there will be plenty of tribes in Africa/SE Asia etc who will pretty much continue unaffected. Except those bothersome missionaries will stop coming around. The human race will continue though.
- moomoo11 4y ago
  Yeah. I’d be pretty bummed to go that way though. It makes me sad and I hope it doesn’t happen.
yawpitch 4y ago
> Humans are definitely the best species this planet has ever produced (that we know of). It’s certainly the most solipsistic… and, likely not coincidentally, it’s the only one that has developed the capacity to make the entire planet functionally uninhabitable to its own species. Also tardigrades will definitely outlast the human species… as will rats, cockroaches, and those mouth-less tube worms that cluster around deep sea vents… the only question is how soon will they have outlasted us?
- moomoo11 4y ago
  I don’t see rats sending devices outside the solar system nor do I see roaches developing modern medicine or heavy industry. We are the best product made on earth and just because some of us are assholes doesn’t mean all of us are. Of all the species so far we have the most potential. Humans surviving would be a way more valuable proposition than some rodents who cannibalize each other because they don’t know any better. We will nuke each other but at least we were able to also develop so much more positive things too. And thankfully there are way more awesome and good people in the world. Just leadership is wack lol.
  - yawpitch 4y ago
    “We” aren’t products, we’re accidents; accidents that, oddly, once looked very much like rats — implying that today’s rats have at least as much potential as today’s humans, should the humans in their ignorance and stupidity clear the path for them — and we _still_ spend a great deal of time cannibalizing each other because we don’t know any better… and though we are indeed capable of great things we are equally if not more capable of terrible things, and history — not to mention the brutally delusional sense of self-importance inherent in thinking we’re the best bet the earth’s made — does not imply the balance remaining on the great side for long.
bbor 4y ago
You should read “A Canticle for Lebowitz” :)
- moomoo11 4y ago
  Thanks! Will do. Seems interesting I just read the Wikipedia article.

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zikduruqe 4y ago

Yep. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4922079-one-second-after https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4922079-one-second-after I used to consult and teach various preparedness and emergency topics, and people always asked me what my favorite "survival manual" was. One Second After is.