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Wouldn’t you expect video to surface of f-22s in action?

lettergram 4y ago
F-22s we’re designed to guide weapons to targets. Ukraine launches a few rockets and a stealth f-22 off the coast can guide it in. Something like this seems plausible here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62500560 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62500560 There are some alternative theories (small drones painting targets), but imo it’s just as plausible a stealth plane 50 miles away gave a missile some coordinates
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  You don’t need an F-22’s guidance to hit a stationary ground target available on Google Maps.
- hackernewds 4y ago
  What do you mean by "guide it in"? Resisting a crass joke here as well
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Ukraine launches a few rockets and a stealth f-22 off the coast can guide it in. The only “rockets” Ukraine has that would reach that range are Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles which has active radar homing for hitting ships, and backup inertial/GPS guidance (which is all that is needed for stationary land targets), and converted Soviet-era drones with (apparently) GPS/inertial guidance it has used for long-range strikes into Russia (specifically, at strategic bomber bases being used for attacks against Ukraine.) For the F-22 to guide a missile in, it would have to have semi-active radar or laser homing (I believe the F-22 can, with the right equipment, designated for either), but the Neptune doesn’t, and we have no indication that their drone conversions do, either. So, the alternatives for a Ukrainian rocket attack is a weapon we don’t know they have with an assist from fighters that haven’t been reported in the region and that would be the exact kind of escalation the US government is trying to avoid, or weapons we do know they have, which need no US assist. Which seems likelier?
akiselev 4y ago
The engines have a distinct sound so the video wouldn't even have to be pointed up at them.

F-22s we’re designed to guide weapons to targets. Ukraine launches a few rockets and a stealth f-22 off the coast can guide it in. Something like this seems plausible here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62500560 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62500560 There are some alternative theories (small drones painting targets), but imo it’s just as plausible a stealth plane 50 miles away gave a missile some coordinates

ceejayoz 4y ago
You don’t need an F-22’s guidance to hit a stationary ground target available on Google Maps.
hackernewds 4y ago
What do you mean by "guide it in"? Resisting a crass joke here as well
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Ukraine launches a few rockets and a stealth f-22 off the coast can guide it in. The only “rockets” Ukraine has that would reach that range are Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles which has active radar homing for hitting ships, and backup inertial/GPS guidance (which is all that is needed for stationary land targets), and converted Soviet-era drones with (apparently) GPS/inertial guidance it has used for long-range strikes into Russia (specifically, at strategic bomber bases being used for attacks against Ukraine.) For the F-22 to guide a missile in, it would have to have semi-active radar or laser homing (I believe the F-22 can, with the right equipment, designated for either), but the Neptune doesn’t, and we have no indication that their drone conversions do, either. So, the alternatives for a Ukrainian rocket attack is a weapon we don’t know they have with an assist from fighters that haven’t been reported in the region and that would be the exact kind of escalation the US government is trying to avoid, or weapons we do know they have, which need no US assist. Which seems likelier?

akiselev 4y ago

The engines have a distinct sound so the video wouldn't even have to be pointed up at them.