> those platforms also require you to install the toolchains for your target platforms No, that's not true. There are multiple toolchains for Linux and Windows

> those platforms also require you to install the toolchains for your target platforms No, that's not true. There are multiple toolchains for Linux and Windows. You don't have to use a specific one. > No one is forced to use Xcode Not only are you forced to install xcode, if your Mac is too old, you can't get the latest xcode, and you can't develop apps for iOS. If you don't have a Mac, you can't even develop apps for iOS or Mac. > that's literally what I said No, it isn't. You said lots of people like XCode, and I'm saying that you're the only one I've ever heard of. > you were passing your dislike of Xcode as though it were objective fact Yes, I think it's a well-known fact that most Mac/iOS devs do not like XCode. > a single command line that you can put in a makefile or whatever Yes but getting to that single command isn't easy. That's like saying time travel is easy, you just need to press the "go" button on the time machine (which needs to be invented).