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I don’t agree with this at all. First, it sounds like you are too focused on you own experience. Focus on being a good parent and giving them a good experience,

by _yb2s 4y ago

I don’t agree with this at all. First, it sounds like you are too focused on you own experience. Focus on being a good parent and giving them a good experience, and you will have a better time also. Second, I did more outdoors with a toddler than most people would even believe. It took a lot of planning, and was very physically demanding but was worth it. Some examples: -serious backpacking and hiking trips in remote places, mostly carrying them in an osprey child carrier pack, but having them walk as much as they can -long, remote kayaking trips in a double kayak -multi day boating trips exploring uninhabited islands and beaches together Check out “outdoor boys” on YouTube for some examples of really serious outdoor adventures with toddlers.

watwut 4y ago
The experience of adult is literally topic of the discussion. Second, no, when I focus on being good parent, I still did not had skiing fun when doing it with small child. Second, I did not said impossible. I said it is entirely different experience. And it is. It is family experience and not sport adventure experience. Most of the time you spend supervising the kid and focusing on that. You don't spend that time the same way as when you are adult and can actually relax, actually raise own adrenaline and so on.
- _yb2s 4y ago
  I really hate to be this confrontational and negative online, but you have a negative attitude that is unbecoming of someone that is a parent and a leader, with little ones depending on and looking up to them. I was the same when I was a new parent, and I had to fix this for my son's sake. My point is that the experience as an adult is better once you fully embrace the parenting role, stop resenting the fact that you aren't by yourself, and look for what is possible to do together. The attitude of comparing yourself as a parent to a solo person and longing for being solo is a really destructive narrative that will lead you to resenting instead of enjoying parenting, and make it impossible to be present as a good parent. Yes, parenting is much harder, and you can't do the same things... but you can grow as a person, and do different things, that are often even more awesome- especially in regards to extreme outdoor sports. Doing difficult outdoor sports with a young kid is the ultimate challenge, and requires you to cultivate a level of badass not needed or even possible as a solo person. I can see how what you are saying is probably true for downhill skiing, but I certainly have been able to relax, get a serious workout, and raise my adrenaline doing other outdoor adventures with young kids. It's key to be able to carry their weight physically with your own body when they get tired, so that you are limited only by your own physical fitness, just like when you are solo only harder. I get this is probably not safe for downhill skiing- but can work with a sled (x-country ski), kayak, hiking, etc.

by _yb2s 4y ago

watwut 4y ago

The experience of adult is literally topic of the discussion. Second, no, when I focus on being good parent, I still did not had skiing fun when doing it with small child. Second, I did not said impossible. I said it is entirely different experience. And it is. It is family experience and not sport adventure experience. Most of the time you spend supervising the kid and focusing on that. You don't spend that time the same way as when you are adult and can actually relax, actually raise own adrenaline and so on.

_yb2s 4y ago
I really hate to be this confrontational and negative online, but you have a negative attitude that is unbecoming of someone that is a parent and a leader, with little ones depending on and looking up to them. I was the same when I was a new parent, and I had to fix this for my son's sake. My point is that the experience as an adult is better once you fully embrace the parenting role, stop resenting the fact that you aren't by yourself, and look for what is possible to do together. The attitude of comparing yourself as a parent to a solo person and longing for being solo is a really destructive narrative that will lead you to resenting instead of enjoying parenting, and make it impossible to be present as a good parent. Yes, parenting is much harder, and you can't do the same things... but you can grow as a person, and do different things, that are often even more awesome- especially in regards to extreme outdoor sports. Doing difficult outdoor sports with a young kid is the ultimate challenge, and requires you to cultivate a level of badass not needed or even possible as a solo person. I can see how what you are saying is probably true for downhill skiing, but I certainly have been able to relax, get a serious workout, and raise my adrenaline doing other outdoor adventures with young kids. It's key to be able to carry their weight physically with your own body when they get tired, so that you are limited only by your own physical fitness, just like when you are solo only harder. I get this is probably not safe for downhill skiing- but can work with a sled (x-country ski), kayak, hiking, etc.