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5 grams? Most people would absolutely lose their shit on that. Even an eighth of good mushrooms is enough to obliterate most people. Like complete ego death. H

by dntrkv 4y ago

5 grams? Most people would absolutely lose their shit on that. Even an eighth of good mushrooms is enough to obliterate most people. Like complete ego death. How long do these sessions last? What are the logistics? I’m very curious.

mathgladiator 4y ago
9 hours on a heroic dose
batty_alex 4y ago
An eighth won’t give you ego death. 5 grams is about where you start getting kaleidoscopic visuals and good hallucinations In all, the whole trip usually lasts a solid 4 hours. You’re going to be ready to pass out at the end
- shlant 4y ago
  > An eighth won’t give you ego death. 5 grams is about where you start getting kaleidoscopic visuals and good hallucinations This is completely dependent on the strain[1] and potency of that batch. It also will depend on the person. To make any definitive statements on what people will experience on x grams is not an informed opinion. [1] https://leafly-cms-production.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/17113140/psilocybin-content.jpg?auto=format,compress&w=1100 https://leafly-cms-production.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2...
  - batty_alex 4y ago
    Leafley is great but, I’ve babysat enough people to tell you that an eighth (3.5g) isn’t going to put anyone on a shroom trip. They’ll definitely get stoned and have some euphoria on the downslope Update: p. Cubensis is what I’m most familiar with
    - shlant 4y ago
      it's interesting because someone replied to another comment of mine saying 2g is tripping balls for them haha. I think it greatly varies from person to person - I for instance seem to have a greater tolerance for psychedelics than most people I know. I guess it would also depend on what you consider a "trip".
epistemer 4y ago
5 grams is the idiotic recommendation from Terence McKenna that people blindly follow because he was a good writer and had an almost psychedelic stand up routine with public speaking. He was basically a type of cult leader. It is absolutely terrible advice. The advice should be "less is more" not this McKenna "heroic dose" bullshit like some kind of dosage sport.
- di456 4y ago
  > The advice should be "less is more" not this McKenna "heroic dose" bullshit like some kind of dosage sport. The research backed advice is that set and setting are what really influences the experience. The dose varies by person, tolerance, genetics of the fungi, and how deep one wants to go in the experience. Taking 5 grams is not something to do in a whim, for pride or ego, or to keep up with anyone else. Better to ease into a bigger dose over time and not rush the experience.
ehecatl42 4y ago
5g wet (fresh) of P. cubensis is totally doable. The same mass of dry *P. semilanceata* on the other hand...
TaylorAlexander 4y ago
Yes my understanding was a that ego death is the goal, and this is done in a controlled setting with a trusted therapist. I have no experience with these dosage levels but what I have heard is that some people don’t experience the full ego death at 3.5 grams but most people do at 5 grams, and I have also heard that there isn’t much additional effect from higher doses. So the thinking is to make sure to get everyone over that edge. However there are other forms of treatment and I’m only talking about what I learned a few years ago, I’ve not studied the latest work and I am not a medical professional at all. I did a quick google search to find more info for you and it seems there’s a lot of new work being done. I didn’t find any convenient link with the answer to your question though.
Overtonwindow 4y ago
I had to do four grams the first time. If you are on antidepressants or anti anxiety drugs you'll need more of it. Four grams was the lower therapeutic dose for me, after that I did six grams, but was able to get by for the remainder of the seven weeks on just two grams a day.

by dntrkv 4y ago

mathgladiator 4y ago

9 hours on a heroic dose

batty_alex 4y ago

An eighth won’t give you ego death. 5 grams is about where you start getting kaleidoscopic visuals and good hallucinations In all, the whole trip usually lasts a solid 4 hours. You’re going to be ready to pass out at the end

shlant 4y ago
> An eighth won’t give you ego death. 5 grams is about where you start getting kaleidoscopic visuals and good hallucinations This is completely dependent on the strain[1] and potency of that batch. It also will depend on the person. To make any definitive statements on what people will experience on x grams is not an informed opinion. [1] https://leafly-cms-production.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/17113140/psilocybin-content.jpg?auto=format,compress&w=1100 https://leafly-cms-production.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/2...
- batty_alex 4y ago
  Leafley is great but, I’ve babysat enough people to tell you that an eighth (3.5g) isn’t going to put anyone on a shroom trip. They’ll definitely get stoned and have some euphoria on the downslope Update: p. Cubensis is what I’m most familiar with
  - shlant 4y ago
    it's interesting because someone replied to another comment of mine saying 2g is tripping balls for them haha. I think it greatly varies from person to person - I for instance seem to have a greater tolerance for psychedelics than most people I know. I guess it would also depend on what you consider a "trip".

epistemer 4y ago

5 grams is the idiotic recommendation from Terence McKenna that people blindly follow because he was a good writer and had an almost psychedelic stand up routine with public speaking. He was basically a type of cult leader. It is absolutely terrible advice. The advice should be "less is more" not this McKenna "heroic dose" bullshit like some kind of dosage sport.

di456 4y ago
> The advice should be "less is more" not this McKenna "heroic dose" bullshit like some kind of dosage sport. The research backed advice is that set and setting are what really influences the experience. The dose varies by person, tolerance, genetics of the fungi, and how deep one wants to go in the experience. Taking 5 grams is not something to do in a whim, for pride or ego, or to keep up with anyone else. Better to ease into a bigger dose over time and not rush the experience.

ehecatl42 4y ago

5g wet (fresh) of P. cubensis is totally doable. The same mass of dry *P. semilanceata* on the other hand...

TaylorAlexander 4y ago

Yes my understanding was a that ego death is the goal, and this is done in a controlled setting with a trusted therapist. I have no experience with these dosage levels but what I have heard is that some people don’t experience the full ego death at 3.5 grams but most people do at 5 grams, and I have also heard that there isn’t much additional effect from higher doses. So the thinking is to make sure to get everyone over that edge. However there are other forms of treatment and I’m only talking about what I learned a few years ago, I’ve not studied the latest work and I am not a medical professional at all. I did a quick google search to find more info for you and it seems there’s a lot of new work being done. I didn’t find any convenient link with the answer to your question though.

Overtonwindow 4y ago

I had to do four grams the first time. If you are on antidepressants or anti anxiety drugs you'll need more of it. Four grams was the lower therapeutic dose for me, after that I did six grams, but was able to get by for the remainder of the seven weeks on just two grams a day.