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> And those C++ automotive jobs in Germany? Sorry, I'm not even going to interview for 70k€ annually. I'd take that job in a heartbeat. Working on cars? Check.

> And those C++ automotive jobs in Germany? Sorry, I'm not even going to interview for 70k€ annually. I'd take that job in a heartbeat. Working on cars? Check. Nice European country? Check. Work-life balance? Double-check. What's not to like? Maybe it's because I'm looking for fresh graduate jobs, and 70000€ looks very attractive to me, even with a 35% tax.

fooker 4y ago
> Nice European country? The grass is always greener on the other side. :) If you don’t like the idea of living in San Francisco or Chicago, you’ll hate it at most of the large European cities. Small towns are a different manner.
- dodyg 4y ago
  In large European cities you don't have to worry about getting shot
- drblastoff 4y ago
  Cities are not all alike. I enjoy living in my current city, but would never move back to San Francisco.
- delta_p_delta_x 4y ago
  I'm not American. I think almost all European cities are a lot smaller and a lot less dense than Singapore is. And they have equivalent public transport, amenities, etc. Make no mistakes, I don't have any illusions about cultural differences and am perfectly aware of grass-greener-on-other-side syndrome. I just don't want to be stuck in a 700 km^2 island all my life.
  - fxtentacle 4y ago
    You'll be surprised! I haven't found a single place in Europe where public transport is even remotely as good as the MRT in Singapore.
roenxi 4y ago
> What's not to like? The pay & the taxes, mainly. It is more fun owning one of those German cars than helping write their software. > Maybe it's because I'm looking for fresh graduate jobs... If you are just starting out, observe that the point of a job is to make money. Give serious thought to finding a job that pays well. Most people you see are working solely because that makes them money, although optimising $/hr is usually not something people regret.
selfmodruntime 4y ago
Tax is closer to 40% at that bracket and that is without obscene rent.
fxtentacle 4y ago
The original article was talking about senior engineers with 10+ years of practical C++ experience. And for that, 70k is low.

fooker 4y ago

> Nice European country? The grass is always greener on the other side. :) If you don’t like the idea of living in San Francisco or Chicago, you’ll hate it at most of the large European cities. Small towns are a different manner.

dodyg 4y ago
In large European cities you don't have to worry about getting shot
drblastoff 4y ago
Cities are not all alike. I enjoy living in my current city, but would never move back to San Francisco.
delta_p_delta_x 4y ago
I'm not American. I think almost all European cities are a lot smaller and a lot less dense than Singapore is. And they have equivalent public transport, amenities, etc. Make no mistakes, I don't have any illusions about cultural differences and am perfectly aware of grass-greener-on-other-side syndrome. I just don't want to be stuck in a 700 km^2 island all my life.
- fxtentacle 4y ago
  You'll be surprised! I haven't found a single place in Europe where public transport is even remotely as good as the MRT in Singapore.

roenxi 4y ago

> What's not to like? The pay & the taxes, mainly. It is more fun owning one of those German cars than helping write their software. > Maybe it's because I'm looking for fresh graduate jobs... If you are just starting out, observe that the point of a job is to make money. Give serious thought to finding a job that pays well. Most people you see are working solely because that makes them money, although optimising $/hr is usually not something people regret.

selfmodruntime 4y ago

Tax is closer to 40% at that bracket and that is without obscene rent.

fxtentacle 4y ago

The original article was talking about senior engineers with 10+ years of practical C++ experience. And for that, 70k is low.