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That's not abusive. That's a rational security posture. Defense contractor employees can't take their work home either. It's nice when you can't be pressured to

That's not abusive. That's a rational security posture. Defense contractor employees can't take their work home either. It's nice when you can't be pressured to work off hours.

jedberg 4y ago
It's not rational at all. It shows a complete distrust for the employee. National security is different because the rules are imposed from the outside. These are self imposed rules. Also most defense contractor employees don't work that much overtime and many can take the non-classified parts of their work home.
- jiggawatts 4y ago
  Let me get this straight... you turned down a nearly seven-figure income because you would be required to not work at home and you were asked to stick to the same office hours as cubible farm workers making a tenth of that income? Umm... wat!?
  - Retric 4y ago
    Income has logarithmic value. His options were to make 350k and be happy day to day or make twice that and be in an activity hostile environment. Lifestyle wise there is little meaningful difference between 350k and 700k when you don’t have much free time to spend it. Sure in theory he would be able to retire sooner etc, but retirement isn’t such a big deal if you don’t hate your job. Also, savings compounds so saving 3x as much doesn’t mean working 1/3 as long especially when you consider social security benefits etc.
  - Luc 4y ago
    I think you misunderstood. The job pressures you into overtime.
- silverstein420 4y ago
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fzeroracer 4y ago
This isn't true by the way. A lot of defense contractors employ WFH or full remote procedures because 99% of your work will be on things that are unclassified. Most modern development practices separate out the classified material from the actual day to day work because not only is it better for security but also because forcing everyone into a SCIF wastes a lot of time and money.
bombolo 4y ago
Hello! I work on a software used (not exclusively) by the USA armed forces. I work from home for the most part. I can do that while travelling as well but I have some limitations on which countries I can do that from. But I'm not sure of the entire list.
iancmceachern 4y ago
Not true, I personally know many defense contractors who effectively have no offices and work out of their homes or vehicle.

That's not abusive. That's a rational security posture. Defense contractor employees can't take their work home either. It's nice when you can't be pressured to work off hours.

jedberg 4y ago

It's not rational at all. It shows a complete distrust for the employee. National security is different because the rules are imposed from the outside. These are self imposed rules. Also most defense contractor employees don't work that much overtime and many can take the non-classified parts of their work home.

jiggawatts 4y ago
Let me get this straight... you turned down a nearly seven-figure income because you would be required to not work at home and you were asked to stick to the same office hours as cubible farm workers making a tenth of that income? Umm... wat!?
- Retric 4y ago
  Income has logarithmic value. His options were to make 350k and be happy day to day or make twice that and be in an activity hostile environment. Lifestyle wise there is little meaningful difference between 350k and 700k when you don’t have much free time to spend it. Sure in theory he would be able to retire sooner etc, but retirement isn’t such a big deal if you don’t hate your job. Also, savings compounds so saving 3x as much doesn’t mean working 1/3 as long especially when you consider social security benefits etc.
- Luc 4y ago
  I think you misunderstood. The job pressures you into overtime.
silverstein420 4y ago
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fzeroracer 4y ago

This isn't true by the way. A lot of defense contractors employ WFH or full remote procedures because 99% of your work will be on things that are unclassified. Most modern development practices separate out the classified material from the actual day to day work because not only is it better for security but also because forcing everyone into a SCIF wastes a lot of time and money.

bombolo 4y ago

Hello! I work on a software used (not exclusively) by the USA armed forces. I work from home for the most part. I can do that while travelling as well but I have some limitations on which countries I can do that from. But I'm not sure of the entire list.

iancmceachern 4y ago

Not true, I personally know many defense contractors who effectively have no offices and work out of their homes or vehicle.