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two hours every evening Bodybuilders don't work out that much, you know.

by mynameishere 15y ago

brudgers 15y ago
Two hours a day is a lot of family time to lose for many parents, and more than an old bum knee may take.
- Swizec 15y ago
  So spend half an hour exercising every day. It's still a lot more than nothing and well worth it when "family time" involves saving someone from a burning building or some other sort of emergency and you have the physical strength to actually do it.
- frasertimo 15y ago
  So don't spend two hours. Exercise isn't an all or nothing game. There's a TED talk out there somewhere (google it) which explains that you get exponentially more out of exercise from about the 15 minute mark, and it hits a peak around half an hour. The study showed that the single best thing you can do for your health (the closest thing there is to a silver bullet, if you will); and this applied to both average sized people and the obese, smokers and non-smokers, etc, was to get 30 mins daily exercise. But even if you can't get that much, 15 minutes isn't wasting your time. Furthermore, exercise doesn't take up your time, it actually increases it. Not just in the years in your life and how much less time you spend in those years being sick; that's obvious. But every single day. Tim Ferriss tells this story about how Richard Branson was once asked the single biggest thing most people could do to increase productivity. Due to the fact that he's one of the busiest men on the planet, every single person in the audience leaned forward with bated breath. His answer? Exercise daily. It improves the quality of your sleep, so you need less. It makes you more emotionally stable, so you're more motivated. And most importantly, it increases mental clarity, so you're more focused through-out the day. Branson said that it gives him multiple hours more productivity every day. It's bull to say you don't have enough time every day to exercise; if you're that busy then in fact you don't have enough time to NOT exercise. Finally, just thought it was worth mentioning that half hour of exercise doesn't even have to be strenuous. In the study I mentioned before they recommended walking, because it's the best overall for your body (too many people run on concrete these days). Swimming is also very good. Neither of these have to be exhausting. Hence why I take the 30-35 minute walk to work every day. My other exercise is a bonus.
  - brudgers 15y ago
    I'm not arguing that 30 minutes of exercise isn't healthy - the parent post to which my comment responded was two hours a day. I'd be dead in a week if I tried that because my spouse would kill me. So much exercise advice is disingenuous: 30 minutes exercise != 30 minutes out of one's day Change cloths, warm up, exercise, cool down, shower, change clothes: there's significant overhead even if one doesn't have to travel to the gym.
- nasmorn 15y ago
  I do convict conditioning for 4 months now. It takes me approx. 30 min every other day although I switched to more like 20min 6 times a week now. The results are spectacular. The important thing in exercising is not to overresearch, eg. you can find all kinds of people on the internets telling you that convict conditioning sucks and you should rather do X. Lots of these people have a point but usually it only holds under specific conditions like "I want to maximize my expected strength gain." but ignores time, financial or risk adversity to injury. TLDR: Just pick something that fits your constraints and stick with it. The results compared to doing nothing will blow you away.
  - draggnar 15y ago
    I do this also. I have no idea why people go to the gym. You naturally increase your strength by moving your body around. No excuses for not having time to go to the gym because you can fit it in any time. Also, the important thing Convict Conditioning emphasizes is that it is a way of life and not just a quick get strong program. You can't just get strong in a few months and expect to stay that way forever. If you progressively work your way up from simple exercises with the mindset that you'll be doing this forever, regardless of moving or changing gyms or spending more time at the office or whatever, you will get strong.
Swizec 15y ago
Sure they do. All the serious bodybuilders at my gym were there about the time I got there and left about the time I left. Except they also put in another hour in the morning. Doing enough repetitions with the proper rest in between takes time. Out of the two hours you're there you probably spend less than 90 minutes actively exercising. Especially taking into account the gym being packed and having to wait for stuff.
llimllib 15y ago
Bodybuilding takes a particularly long time because you need super high reps to encourage muscular hypertrophy. Just getting strong or fit can be done in much less time, though it may leave you without the beach muscles, if that's what you're after.
- fragsworth 15y ago
  All the literature I've read for bodybuilding says your reps should be in the 8 to 12 range, and higher reps leads to more muscle endurance without much muscle growth.
  - Swizec 15y ago
    Yes, 4 sets of 8 to 12 reps. Takes, say, 1.5min to do the reps. 1 minute of pause in between. Four exercises per muscle group. Two muscle groups per training session. So you're looking at (4x1.5+4x1)x4x2 = 80 minutes == 1 hour 20 minutes minimum. Without counting the time to move from one exercise to another, without changing your clothes, without falling into a conversation with a fellow gym member, without waiting for anyone to free up a machine/weight-set/whatever. Face it, if you're bodybuilding you're spending 2 hours a day at the gym.
    - __rkaup__ 15y ago
      Where do you get 90 seconds per set from? 4 seconds per rep would be 32-48 seconds.

two hours every evening Bodybuilders don't work out that much, you know.

brudgers 15y ago

Two hours a day is a lot of family time to lose for many parents, and more than an old bum knee may take.

Swizec 15y ago
So spend half an hour exercising every day. It's still a lot more than nothing and well worth it when "family time" involves saving someone from a burning building or some other sort of emergency and you have the physical strength to actually do it.
frasertimo 15y ago
So don't spend two hours. Exercise isn't an all or nothing game. There's a TED talk out there somewhere (google it) which explains that you get exponentially more out of exercise from about the 15 minute mark, and it hits a peak around half an hour. The study showed that the single best thing you can do for your health (the closest thing there is to a silver bullet, if you will); and this applied to both average sized people and the obese, smokers and non-smokers, etc, was to get 30 mins daily exercise. But even if you can't get that much, 15 minutes isn't wasting your time. Furthermore, exercise doesn't take up your time, it actually increases it. Not just in the years in your life and how much less time you spend in those years being sick; that's obvious. But every single day. Tim Ferriss tells this story about how Richard Branson was once asked the single biggest thing most people could do to increase productivity. Due to the fact that he's one of the busiest men on the planet, every single person in the audience leaned forward with bated breath. His answer? Exercise daily. It improves the quality of your sleep, so you need less. It makes you more emotionally stable, so you're more motivated. And most importantly, it increases mental clarity, so you're more focused through-out the day. Branson said that it gives him multiple hours more productivity every day. It's bull to say you don't have enough time every day to exercise; if you're that busy then in fact you don't have enough time to NOT exercise. Finally, just thought it was worth mentioning that half hour of exercise doesn't even have to be strenuous. In the study I mentioned before they recommended walking, because it's the best overall for your body (too many people run on concrete these days). Swimming is also very good. Neither of these have to be exhausting. Hence why I take the 30-35 minute walk to work every day. My other exercise is a bonus.
- brudgers 15y ago
  I'm not arguing that 30 minutes of exercise isn't healthy - the parent post to which my comment responded was two hours a day. I'd be dead in a week if I tried that because my spouse would kill me. So much exercise advice is disingenuous: 30 minutes exercise != 30 minutes out of one's day Change cloths, warm up, exercise, cool down, shower, change clothes: there's significant overhead even if one doesn't have to travel to the gym.
nasmorn 15y ago
I do convict conditioning for 4 months now. It takes me approx. 30 min every other day although I switched to more like 20min 6 times a week now. The results are spectacular. The important thing in exercising is not to overresearch, eg. you can find all kinds of people on the internets telling you that convict conditioning sucks and you should rather do X. Lots of these people have a point but usually it only holds under specific conditions like "I want to maximize my expected strength gain." but ignores time, financial or risk adversity to injury. TLDR: Just pick something that fits your constraints and stick with it. The results compared to doing nothing will blow you away.
- draggnar 15y ago
  I do this also. I have no idea why people go to the gym. You naturally increase your strength by moving your body around. No excuses for not having time to go to the gym because you can fit it in any time. Also, the important thing Convict Conditioning emphasizes is that it is a way of life and not just a quick get strong program. You can't just get strong in a few months and expect to stay that way forever. If you progressively work your way up from simple exercises with the mindset that you'll be doing this forever, regardless of moving or changing gyms or spending more time at the office or whatever, you will get strong.

Swizec 15y ago

Sure they do. All the serious bodybuilders at my gym were there about the time I got there and left about the time I left. Except they also put in another hour in the morning. Doing enough repetitions with the proper rest in between takes time. Out of the two hours you're there you probably spend less than 90 minutes actively exercising. Especially taking into account the gym being packed and having to wait for stuff.

llimllib 15y ago

Bodybuilding takes a particularly long time because you need super high reps to encourage muscular hypertrophy. Just getting strong or fit can be done in much less time, though it may leave you without the beach muscles, if that's what you're after.

fragsworth 15y ago
All the literature I've read for bodybuilding says your reps should be in the 8 to 12 range, and higher reps leads to more muscle endurance without much muscle growth.
- Swizec 15y ago
  Yes, 4 sets of 8 to 12 reps. Takes, say, 1.5min to do the reps. 1 minute of pause in between. Four exercises per muscle group. Two muscle groups per training session. So you're looking at (4x1.5+4x1)x4x2 = 80 minutes == 1 hour 20 minutes minimum. Without counting the time to move from one exercise to another, without changing your clothes, without falling into a conversation with a fellow gym member, without waiting for anyone to free up a machine/weight-set/whatever. Face it, if you're bodybuilding you're spending 2 hours a day at the gym.
  - __rkaup__ 15y ago
    Where do you get 90 seconds per set from? 4 seconds per rep would be 32-48 seconds.