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How could one possibly harm their reputation by using a legal medication

by ilostmyshoes 4y ago

RobRivera 4y ago
Loss of us ts/sci for use of controlled substances
- mullingitover 4y ago
  I thought the reason ts/sci people weren't allowed to have any drug use in their history was because using illegal drugs could open them to blackmail? If you're taking an above-board medicine that wouldn't be a factor. I can't imagine one would lose their clearance if they were taking prescription amphetamines for ADHD treament, for example.
retrac 4y ago
Bluntly, using psychiatric medication is an indicator of mental illness. And some people judge such people very negatively, presuming they are unfit to handle serious responsibility. This perspective is sometimes official; in Canada, commercial airline pilots can't take antidepressants without informing the government, and Transport Canada routinely suspends such pilots. [1] Physicians are subject to similar, if less aggressive, restrictions. Being honest, if I found out a person has a long, serious history of depression, I would probably think they are less reliable. That is probably prejudiced. But I think that's a common attitude. If it were a position where lives or a lot of property were on the line, maybe I would think twice in hiring? [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviation-canada-pilots-mental-health-1.3543877 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviation-canada-pilots-ment...
- siquick 4y ago
  You’re in for a big surprise when you find out how many people you know take medication for their mental health.
  - retrac 4y ago
    Sure. Me! Please don't mistake this as advocating it as just. I'm just describing.
    - coffeebeqn 4y ago
      I believe SSRIs are among the most prescribed medicine in the US. They’re certainly a blunt instrument. I’m all for MDMA or psilocybin research. From my own experience they are certainly very potent and can cause longer term changes in your mental well-being
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- ecf 4y ago
  > Being honest, if I found out a person has a long, serious history of depression, I would probably think they are less reliable. Being honest, I hope you never come close to managing a sizeable team. Self-admitted prejudices likes yours should never be remotely close to an authority and/or mentorship role.
  - bmer 4y ago
    As a person with mental health issues: people with such opinions are the vast majority, and therefore are also the majority of people managing sizeable teams. They aren't bad people, it's just how the world works. It's also how people with mental health issues judge others with mental health issues: over how productive they are. For example, you have probably heard a lot about a functional, high-achieving person with ADHD person (because they are better at self-marketing, and because others easily see their value), but probably next to nothing about the low-functioning ADHD person who may never be able to hold down a job and has a patchy career. When a high-functioning "disabled person" is campaigning for greater workplace inclusivity, for instance, they're usually campaigning for other high-functioning people, not the low-functioning ones. Functional people find low-functioning people less reliable. :( Partially because it is true, partially because it is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and partially because our society worships functionality (because it's what wins resources, at the end of the day).
    - vkou 4y ago
      Maybe they aren't bad people[1], but they are people doing a bad thing. [1] Whatever that means.
  - dorkwood 4y ago
    I saw it as them admitting to having a psychological bias, not necessarily saying they would act on it. We all hold biases which are not arrived at through reason. It’s possible to notice one in ourselves without agreeing that it’s right.
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- crtified 4y ago
  Perhaps wanting control over the lives and property of others is the real mental illness, as it results in quite unreliable things happening in the world and throughout history.
KyeRussell 4y ago
Because one’s reputation is not based purely on the legality of their actions.
__turbobrew__ 4y ago
It’s legal to insult someone, that doesn’t mean your reputation remains untarnished. Reputation has little to do with legality.
- ilostmyshoes 4y ago
  Where insulting someone is causing harm to another, is taking a medication going to harm someone?
girvo 4y ago
It could cause me some reputational harm if my buprenorphine injection was to become common knowledge (in theory, in practice my family, friends and boss are well aware of my treatment for opioid use disorder).
luxuryballs 4y ago
the most obvious example is people who still think it should be illegal and would look down on you for using it, it was never about the legality for them, the legality was just a side effect of their stance

How could one possibly harm their reputation by using a legal medication

RobRivera 4y ago

Loss of us ts/sci for use of controlled substances

mullingitover 4y ago
I thought the reason ts/sci people weren't allowed to have any drug use in their history was because using illegal drugs could open them to blackmail? If you're taking an above-board medicine that wouldn't be a factor. I can't imagine one would lose their clearance if they were taking prescription amphetamines for ADHD treament, for example.

retrac 4y ago

Bluntly, using psychiatric medication is an indicator of mental illness. And some people judge such people very negatively, presuming they are unfit to handle serious responsibility. This perspective is sometimes official; in Canada, commercial airline pilots can't take antidepressants without informing the government, and Transport Canada routinely suspends such pilots. [1] Physicians are subject to similar, if less aggressive, restrictions. Being honest, if I found out a person has a long, serious history of depression, I would probably think they are less reliable. That is probably prejudiced. But I think that's a common attitude. If it were a position where lives or a lot of property were on the line, maybe I would think twice in hiring? [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviation-canada-pilots-mental-health-1.3543877 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/aviation-canada-pilots-ment...

siquick 4y ago
You’re in for a big surprise when you find out how many people you know take medication for their mental health.
- retrac 4y ago
  Sure. Me! Please don't mistake this as advocating it as just. I'm just describing.
  - coffeebeqn 4y ago
    I believe SSRIs are among the most prescribed medicine in the US. They’re certainly a blunt instrument. I’m all for MDMA or psilocybin research. From my own experience they are certainly very potent and can cause longer term changes in your mental well-being
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ecf 4y ago
> Being honest, if I found out a person has a long, serious history of depression, I would probably think they are less reliable. Being honest, I hope you never come close to managing a sizeable team. Self-admitted prejudices likes yours should never be remotely close to an authority and/or mentorship role.
- bmer 4y ago
  As a person with mental health issues: people with such opinions are the vast majority, and therefore are also the majority of people managing sizeable teams. They aren't bad people, it's just how the world works. It's also how people with mental health issues judge others with mental health issues: over how productive they are. For example, you have probably heard a lot about a functional, high-achieving person with ADHD person (because they are better at self-marketing, and because others easily see their value), but probably next to nothing about the low-functioning ADHD person who may never be able to hold down a job and has a patchy career. When a high-functioning "disabled person" is campaigning for greater workplace inclusivity, for instance, they're usually campaigning for other high-functioning people, not the low-functioning ones. Functional people find low-functioning people less reliable. :( Partially because it is true, partially because it is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and partially because our society worships functionality (because it's what wins resources, at the end of the day).
  - vkou 4y ago
    Maybe they aren't bad people[1], but they are people doing a bad thing. [1] Whatever that means.
- dorkwood 4y ago
  I saw it as them admitting to having a psychological bias, not necessarily saying they would act on it. We all hold biases which are not arrived at through reason. It’s possible to notice one in ourselves without agreeing that it’s right.
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crtified 4y ago
Perhaps wanting control over the lives and property of others is the real mental illness, as it results in quite unreliable things happening in the world and throughout history.

KyeRussell 4y ago

Because one’s reputation is not based purely on the legality of their actions.

__turbobrew__ 4y ago

It’s legal to insult someone, that doesn’t mean your reputation remains untarnished. Reputation has little to do with legality.

ilostmyshoes 4y ago
Where insulting someone is causing harm to another, is taking a medication going to harm someone?

girvo 4y ago

It could cause me some reputational harm if my buprenorphine injection was to become common knowledge (in theory, in practice my family, friends and boss are well aware of my treatment for opioid use disorder).

luxuryballs 4y ago

the most obvious example is people who still think it should be illegal and would look down on you for using it, it was never about the legality for them, the legality was just a side effect of their stance