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Google works on Blink-based iOS browser contrary to Apple's WebKit rule

13 points by Dotnaught 4y ago

zahma 4y ago
Walled garden be damned, I’d really like some choice in how I browse the web on my phone. Not that I want Google peering in on me over Apple, but hopefully (maybe?) this can be a wedge to open up rules on iOS browsers for Firefox and Orion. Is there any possibility of Google effecting a change in Apple’s iOS rules?
- m-p-3 4y ago
  Firefox being able to run add-ons on iOS would make it a really attractive alternative to other browsers out there.
- jqpabc123 4y ago
  Is there any possibility of Google effecting a change in Apple’s iOS rules? Yes, with government assistance. Remember, MS was sued for bundling a web browser with Windows. iOS has about 60% market share in the US.
  - dagmx 4y ago
    Microsoft weren’t sued for bundling a web browser with Windows. This is an apocryphal simplification. They were sued for disallowing other browsers to be bundled with the system by OEMs, which stifled other companies to get market share. Case in point, Microsoft still bundle a browser with their system today. They just can’t stop Dell from shipping with Firefox now. The case with Apple is different, they allow other browsers to be installed by the user, and because there aren’t OEM sales, they don’t run afoul of the same thing. Yes I know browser engines are different than browsers, but the point is about the product itself not the underlying pieces. This is also why Google got sued for the play store monopoly whereas Apple didn’t. Google was pressuring companies to ship with their store instead of competitors. Because Apple neither has the ability for custom stores or other brands selling their OS, it doesn’t apply. This isn’t to say that there can’t be other cases against them, just to say that the Microsoft and Google situations aren’t precedent or entirely relevant.
    - villgax 4y ago
      You haven't really read up on how the App Store itself came about have you ....
      - dagmx 4y ago
        instead of vague insinuations, could you at least post whatever you’re alluding to.
fragmede 4y ago
Even if I have to clone the source and compile it myself, I'd love to be able to run it on my iphone.
villgax 4y ago
Can you imagine being told in the 2000s that on your Mac you aren't allowed to browse the web without Safari ...... Jesus

13 points by Dotnaught 4y ago

Walled garden be damned, I’d really like some choice in how I browse the web on my phone. Not that I want Google peering in on me over Apple, but hopefully (maybe?) this can be a wedge to open up rules on iOS browsers for Firefox and Orion. Is there any possibility of Google effecting a change in Apple’s iOS rules?

m-p-3 4y ago
Firefox being able to run add-ons on iOS would make it a really attractive alternative to other browsers out there.
jqpabc123 4y ago
Is there any possibility of Google effecting a change in Apple’s iOS rules? Yes, with government assistance. Remember, MS was sued for bundling a web browser with Windows. iOS has about 60% market share in the US.
- dagmx 4y ago
  Microsoft weren’t sued for bundling a web browser with Windows. This is an apocryphal simplification. They were sued for disallowing other browsers to be bundled with the system by OEMs, which stifled other companies to get market share. Case in point, Microsoft still bundle a browser with their system today. They just can’t stop Dell from shipping with Firefox now. The case with Apple is different, they allow other browsers to be installed by the user, and because there aren’t OEM sales, they don’t run afoul of the same thing. Yes I know browser engines are different than browsers, but the point is about the product itself not the underlying pieces. This is also why Google got sued for the play store monopoly whereas Apple didn’t. Google was pressuring companies to ship with their store instead of competitors. Because Apple neither has the ability for custom stores or other brands selling their OS, it doesn’t apply. This isn’t to say that there can’t be other cases against them, just to say that the Microsoft and Google situations aren’t precedent or entirely relevant.
  - villgax 4y ago
    You haven't really read up on how the App Store itself came about have you ....
    - dagmx 4y ago
      instead of vague insinuations, could you at least post whatever you’re alluding to.

fragmede 4y ago

Even if I have to clone the source and compile it myself, I'd love to be able to run it on my iphone.

villgax 4y ago

Can you imagine being told in the 2000s that on your Mac you aren't allowed to browse the web without Safari ...... Jesus