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It is saying you can be a customer service rep, and if you work overtime you are owed overtime pay. But they can "promote" you to customer service rep manager,

It is saying you can be a customer service rep, and if you work overtime you are owed overtime pay. But they can "promote" you to customer service rep manager, raise your pay by a bit (but lower than your overtime pay would be), and have you continue to do the exact same job (maybe with some token manager duties thrown in) for the same or even more hours and not need to pay overtime. Was that the intention of the law? Idk - given the priorities of the people who make laws maybe it is.

rizzom5000 4y ago
It's probably not the explicit intention, but I believe that an intelligent species would probably recognize that it's in their best interests to elect lawmakers who understand the concept of economic incentives and as a corollary; perverse incentives.
- astrange 4y ago
  Most perverse incentives aren't real, they're just cynicism. As an example every new safety technology like seat belts comes with complaints that it'll just encourage people to drive worse (fancy term "risk compensation") but in fact there's no evidence this happens.
  - bbarn 4y ago
    There is at least one piece of research however, that shows wearing a bicycle helmet (or being a male) causes people in cars to pass more closely presumably with an assumption that you're less at risk. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060911102200.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060911102200.h...
crooked-v 4y ago
The law is pretty clear about it. There's just very little to no enforcement of it beyond private lawsuits because a significant proportion of the US population actively reject any action that would favor worker protection over corporate profit.
- MomoXenosaga 4y ago
  Something strange happened to America. They were on the exact same socialist trajectory as the rest of the world but it went all wrong. And they are using their considerable superpower resources to drag the rest of us down with them.
  - smegger001 4y ago
    probably a combination of becoming the worlds industrial hegemon immediately after ww2 while the suddenly facing down communism. industrial jobs were well compensated the rest to the world was buying from us because ww2 bombing destroyed everyone else industrial base so there was money to spend, and socialism looked to much like the Soviets to the average American. then in the fallowing decades American labor unions became infiltrated and taken over by the mob (remember Jimmy Hoffa). the combine association of communism and organized crime gave it a bad smell the much of America.

rizzom5000 4y ago

It's probably not the explicit intention, but I believe that an intelligent species would probably recognize that it's in their best interests to elect lawmakers who understand the concept of economic incentives and as a corollary; perverse incentives.

astrange 4y ago
Most perverse incentives aren't real, they're just cynicism. As an example every new safety technology like seat belts comes with complaints that it'll just encourage people to drive worse (fancy term "risk compensation") but in fact there's no evidence this happens.
- bbarn 4y ago
  There is at least one piece of research however, that shows wearing a bicycle helmet (or being a male) causes people in cars to pass more closely presumably with an assumption that you're less at risk. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060911102200.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060911102200.h...

crooked-v 4y ago

The law is pretty clear about it. There's just very little to no enforcement of it beyond private lawsuits because a significant proportion of the US population actively reject any action that would favor worker protection over corporate profit.

MomoXenosaga 4y ago
Something strange happened to America. They were on the exact same socialist trajectory as the rest of the world but it went all wrong. And they are using their considerable superpower resources to drag the rest of us down with them.
- smegger001 4y ago
  probably a combination of becoming the worlds industrial hegemon immediately after ww2 while the suddenly facing down communism. industrial jobs were well compensated the rest to the world was buying from us because ww2 bombing destroyed everyone else industrial base so there was money to spend, and socialism looked to much like the Soviets to the average American. then in the fallowing decades American labor unions became infiltrated and taken over by the mob (remember Jimmy Hoffa). the combine association of communism and organized crime gave it a bad smell the much of America.