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They should exclude ML generated images in the submission requirements.

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GuB-42 4y ago
Why? Either ML entries will be crap and will be dismissed as crap, or they are good and deserve their place. It takes skill to craft a good prompt for something like Stable Diffusion. And the competition is not about abstract art, there are many specific requirements because they want artists to come up with a design that is technically feasible. Just try it, all I got was either copies of existing spacesuits, or at best totally impractical or even physically impossible designs. Getting something acceptable requires decent skills with the AI, and probably manual tweaking too. And they want 3 different angles of the same suit, this pretty much makes it impossible to just use your favorite diffusion model. These models have no idea about how a spacesuit functions, just how to build aesthetically pleasant images that match the keywords. For example it may include a flashlight on the front view, and a different flashlight on the back view, because while it may know how a the front of a flashlight looks, and how the back of a flashlight looks, it can't connect the two unless it has been specially trained for that (for example by showing it a large database of flashlights seen from different angles). And the flashlight is just a detail, there are many of these on the finished picture. So if you really want to use AI, you may be able to get an initial design, but you'll most likely need an actual human artist to do the 3 views and fix the "bugs". You also need to write some text that explains your design ChatGPT may help you there, but you have to make sure it is consistent with the image. In fact, the more I think of it, the more deserving I think ML submissions would be. If the winner used AI, it would be an achievement way more important than winning a spacesuit design contest. AIs have already won art competitions, but to my knowledge, never with something realistic. AIs sometimes hallucinate cool things, but it won't cut it here.
- lagrange77 4y ago
  You're right. I didn't think about is as much as you did.

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Why? Either ML entries will be crap and will be dismissed as crap, or they are good and deserve their place. It takes skill to craft a good prompt for something like Stable Diffusion. And the competition is not about abstract art, there are many specific requirements because they want artists to come up with a design that is technically feasible. Just try it, all I got was either copies of existing spacesuits, or at best totally impractical or even physically impossible designs. Getting something acceptable requires decent skills with the AI, and probably manual tweaking too. And they want 3 different angles of the same suit, this pretty much makes it impossible to just use your favorite diffusion model. These models have no idea about how a spacesuit functions, just how to build aesthetically pleasant images that match the keywords. For example it may include a flashlight on the front view, and a different flashlight on the back view, because while it may know how a the front of a flashlight looks, and how the back of a flashlight looks, it can't connect the two unless it has been specially trained for that (for example by showing it a large database of flashlights seen from different angles). And the flashlight is just a detail, there are many of these on the finished picture. So if you really want to use AI, you may be able to get an initial design, but you'll most likely need an actual human artist to do the 3 views and fix the "bugs". You also need to write some text that explains your design ChatGPT may help you there, but you have to make sure it is consistent with the image. In fact, the more I think of it, the more deserving I think ML submissions would be. If the winner used AI, it would be an achievement way more important than winning a spacesuit design contest. AIs have already won art competitions, but to my knowledge, never with something realistic. AIs sometimes hallucinate cool things, but it won't cut it here.

lagrange77 4y ago
You're right. I didn't think about is as much as you did.