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> We are looking for an EVA suit design presented in A3 format, with an accompanying text of up to 400 words explaining how your design represents European iden

> We are looking for an EVA suit design presented in A3 format, with an accompanying text of up to 400 words explaining how your design represents European identity. What is this European Identity? I was under the impression this was a technical contest but I suppose they will simply customize the branding on the American made and engineered EVA suits? > Proposals have to be submitted in English Ironic to impose a non-European language for this contest.

082349872349872 4y ago
> Ironic to impose a non-European language for this contest. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, that's grand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English has 5+ million L1 speakers)
eddsh1994 4y ago
English, French, and German are the three working languages of the EU. Many non-UK tech companies use English as their working language like in Sweden. Regardless of this, the UK is a member of the ESA working group.
pavlov 4y ago
English is an official language in two EU member states, Malta and Ireland. It’s also the primary working language of science in the world.
- johnwalkr 4y ago
  Four member states by my count: Canada and UK too! If you count "full" members I think just the UK counts.
  - Y_Y 4y ago
    If you think the UK is still in the EU then I have some bad news for you
    - Alupis 4y ago
      Bad news? From an outsider looking in, all the hullabaloo and doomsday talk seems to have not become reality. What was actually bad about leaving, other than the optics of it at the time?
      - bjelkeman-again 4y ago
        Serious economic impact. > a 4% shrinkage in long-run productivity relative to remaining in the EU, expects the Office for Budget Responsibility, inflation is higher than in the EU, trade has fallen by almost a fifth, while the government itself says the much-trumpeted Australian deal will raise GDP by less than 0.1% a year by 2035. Brexit has raised food prices by 6% says the LSE, while draining the workforce. Eurostar also deliberately leaves a third of seats empty due to crippling EU/UK border delays. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/31/three-years-on-brexit-uk-voters-rejoining-eu-labour-europe https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/31/three-... > According to figures from the Netherlands Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis – which tracks trends in global trade – UK goods export volumes remained 3.3% below their 2018 average in October, in contrast to an average 4.4% increase seen across all advanced economies. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/31/why-the-uk-economy-is-shrinking-fast https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/31/why-the-uk-...
        Alupis 4y ago
        How much of this can be attributed to the pandemic and shutdowns, and not directly to simply not being an EU country anymore? After all, there are plenty of non-EU countries in the general region - is the UK doing worse, average, or better than those nations?
        ClumsyPilot 4y ago
        The comparison is against peer countries in the EU, like France. The government failed at every level of due dilligence, like it exited EURATOM without agreeing any replacement. It has nothing to do with EU /single market, but they quit it anyway. 99.99% of brexiters didn't know Euratom even exists. UK exited customs union (despite this not being asked at referendun) but to this date has no customs checks because it has not hired officers or built facilities to carry out checks. It has failed to provide France with custom checking facilities at dover, and there were queues for hundreds of miles this summer with truck drivers defecating out in the open. Like some of this is so mad its hard to believe. My cost of sending parcels to EU has tripled overnight.
flohofwoe 4y ago
ESA, EU and Europe are all different things. The UK left the EU, but they are still ESA member. And unless they declare their island as its own continent, they also remain a part of Europe ;)
timeon 4y ago
> Ironic to impose a non-European language for this contest. How is English non-European? Indo-European -> West Germanic -> Anglo-Frisian -> English
krisoft 4y ago
> I was under the impression this was a technical contest What gave you that impression? The big bold "Remember, this competition places the emphasis on the look of the space suit rather than the technical elements" text?

082349872349872 4y ago

> Ironic to impose a non-European language for this contest. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, that's grand. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English has 5+ million L1 speakers)

eddsh1994 4y ago

English, French, and German are the three working languages of the EU. Many non-UK tech companies use English as their working language like in Sweden. Regardless of this, the UK is a member of the ESA working group.

pavlov 4y ago

English is an official language in two EU member states, Malta and Ireland. It’s also the primary working language of science in the world.

johnwalkr 4y ago
Four member states by my count: Canada and UK too! If you count "full" members I think just the UK counts.
- Y_Y 4y ago
  If you think the UK is still in the EU then I have some bad news for you
  - Alupis 4y ago
    Bad news? From an outsider looking in, all the hullabaloo and doomsday talk seems to have not become reality. What was actually bad about leaving, other than the optics of it at the time?
    - bjelkeman-again 4y ago
      Serious economic impact. > a 4% shrinkage in long-run productivity relative to remaining in the EU, expects the Office for Budget Responsibility, inflation is higher than in the EU, trade has fallen by almost a fifth, while the government itself says the much-trumpeted Australian deal will raise GDP by less than 0.1% a year by 2035. Brexit has raised food prices by 6% says the LSE, while draining the workforce. Eurostar also deliberately leaves a third of seats empty due to crippling EU/UK border delays. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/31/three-years-on-brexit-uk-voters-rejoining-eu-labour-europe https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/31/three-... > According to figures from the Netherlands Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis – which tracks trends in global trade – UK goods export volumes remained 3.3% below their 2018 average in October, in contrast to an average 4.4% increase seen across all advanced economies. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/31/why-the-uk-economy-is-shrinking-fast https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/31/why-the-uk-...
      - Alupis 4y ago
        How much of this can be attributed to the pandemic and shutdowns, and not directly to simply not being an EU country anymore? After all, there are plenty of non-EU countries in the general region - is the UK doing worse, average, or better than those nations?
        ClumsyPilot 4y ago
        The comparison is against peer countries in the EU, like France. The government failed at every level of due dilligence, like it exited EURATOM without agreeing any replacement. It has nothing to do with EU /single market, but they quit it anyway. 99.99% of brexiters didn't know Euratom even exists. UK exited customs union (despite this not being asked at referendun) but to this date has no customs checks because it has not hired officers or built facilities to carry out checks. It has failed to provide France with custom checking facilities at dover, and there were queues for hundreds of miles this summer with truck drivers defecating out in the open. Like some of this is so mad its hard to believe. My cost of sending parcels to EU has tripled overnight.

flohofwoe 4y ago

ESA, EU and Europe are all different things. The UK left the EU, but they are still ESA member. And unless they declare their island as its own continent, they also remain a part of Europe ;)

timeon 4y ago

> Ironic to impose a non-European language for this contest. How is English non-European? Indo-European -> West Germanic -> Anglo-Frisian -> English

krisoft 4y ago

> I was under the impression this was a technical contest What gave you that impression? The big bold "Remember, this competition places the emphasis on the look of the space suit rather than the technical elements" text?