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https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/federal-union-wants-47-compensation-increase https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/federal-union-wants-4... You tell us

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/federal-union-wants-47-compensation-increase https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/federal-union-wants-4... You tell us, is a 47% increase in pay "normal"? why did the body intended to help with the negotiations write this: The union’s proposals “do not appear realistic for what should be a fairly advanced stage of negotiations. The numerous proposals are not focused and they would result in an increase to compensation far beyond what is reasonable,” reads the unanimous report signed by three commissioners.

mistrial9 4y ago
Conrad Black built the National Post around the Financial Post, a financial newspaper in Toronto which Hollinger Inc. purchased from Sun Media in 1997. Financial Post was retained as the name of the new newspaper's business section. Beyond his political vision, Black attempted to compete directly with Kenneth Thomson's media empire led in Canada by The Globe and Mail, which Black and many others perceived as the platform of the Liberal establishment. --wikipedia
- kennend3 4y ago
  The point you are attempting to make is unclear?? Is your point that you can copy/paste from wikipedia and provide no actual commentary??
bawolff 4y ago
> You tell us, is a 47% increase in pay "normal"? Maybe. Depends on what the value they provide is. In the tech industry, getting a 47% raise by job hopping to a new job that does the exact same thing, isn't unheard of, so it seems entirely plausible it could be justified. If it actually is in this case, i don't know, but its not crazy on its face.
acdha 4y ago
You can’t say whether that’s unfair or not without looking at where they’re starting from. Did they have long pay freezes under past austerity programs? Has the cost of living increased significantly in the primary areas they work? (e.g. how much would a Vancouver school teacher’s pay needed to have gone up over the last 20 years just to live in comparable housing?) Given that PSAC are asking for 4.5% raises during a period of high inflation I’m skeptical that this is that unreasonable rather than that there’s political hay to be made claiming it is. If they haven’t had cost of living increases for a while, they’ve already effectively had a pay cut.
- kennend3 4y ago
  > you can’t say whether that’s unfair or not without looking at where they’re starting from. Assuming that you did not read the article, I am not stating it is unfair, the independent board they engaged to help with the negotiations stated this. Many people lost their jobs and had to take pay cuts during COVID, why are federal employees exempt from market forces?

mistrial9 4y ago

Conrad Black built the National Post around the Financial Post, a financial newspaper in Toronto which Hollinger Inc. purchased from Sun Media in 1997. Financial Post was retained as the name of the new newspaper's business section. Beyond his political vision, Black attempted to compete directly with Kenneth Thomson's media empire led in Canada by The Globe and Mail, which Black and many others perceived as the platform of the Liberal establishment. --wikipedia

kennend3 4y ago
The point you are attempting to make is unclear?? Is your point that you can copy/paste from wikipedia and provide no actual commentary??

bawolff 4y ago

> You tell us, is a 47% increase in pay "normal"? Maybe. Depends on what the value they provide is. In the tech industry, getting a 47% raise by job hopping to a new job that does the exact same thing, isn't unheard of, so it seems entirely plausible it could be justified. If it actually is in this case, i don't know, but its not crazy on its face.

acdha 4y ago

You can’t say whether that’s unfair or not without looking at where they’re starting from. Did they have long pay freezes under past austerity programs? Has the cost of living increased significantly in the primary areas they work? (e.g. how much would a Vancouver school teacher’s pay needed to have gone up over the last 20 years just to live in comparable housing?) Given that PSAC are asking for 4.5% raises during a period of high inflation I’m skeptical that this is that unreasonable rather than that there’s political hay to be made claiming it is. If they haven’t had cost of living increases for a while, they’ve already effectively had a pay cut.

kennend3 4y ago
> you can’t say whether that’s unfair or not without looking at where they’re starting from. Assuming that you did not read the article, I am not stating it is unfair, the independent board they engaged to help with the negotiations stated this. Many people lost their jobs and had to take pay cuts during COVID, why are federal employees exempt from market forces?