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Ask HN: Do you think Jesus was real?

5 points by grANDr 4y ago

ninethirty 4y ago
The shroud proves he was real.
throwawaysalome 4y ago
That you would even brook doubt is an offense to my people.
- grANDr 4y ago
  No offense, I don't want to offense anyone. It is personal, if you can help please contribute.
hcrisp 4y ago
Why do you ask? I would consider the evidence first and then form an opinion.
- grANDr 4y ago
  Because I doubt
  - grANDr 4y ago
    From my heart, I doubt Messiah and every other kind of fictions, why all of them happened in the past?
    - hcrisp 4y ago
      "To believe with certainty we must begin by doubting." You would have company in that position. But to remain forever in doubt is to waver between belief and unbelief. To which do you tend?
mindcrime 4y ago
I think it's possible that some guy from Galilee lived and was crucified and all that, yeah. But the bit about being the "son of God" and rising from the tomb and all that? No, absolutely not. Complete and utter bollocks as far as I'm concerned.
- grANDr 4y ago
  And what is your opinion about divinity?
  - mindcrime 4y ago
    Don't believe in it.
- grANDr 4y ago
  I mean, Do you think is there any messenger from God?
  - mindcrime 4y ago
    No, because I don't think that there is any "God" for there to be messengers from in the first place.
Hermandw 4y ago
Why do you ask that question on HN of all forums? Yes, personally I believe He was real, and all that implies. The whole story is too complicated and fantastic to be fictional.
- grANDr 4y ago
  So please help me to believe
  - Hermandw 4y ago
    My email is on my HN profile.
- theamk 4y ago
  > story is too complicated and fantastic to be fictional. I feel you should read some nice science fiction.. Azimov is a good start. His stories are both much more complicated as well as fantastic than bible.
  - Hermandw 4y ago
    I have read a LOT of sci-fi, including loads of Asimov. None of his characters are proven historical characters like Jesus. What most people find hard to believe is his claim to be God, his death, resurrection, ascension etc. I'm saying that I do believe those. Saying that all of that is fiction... I really find that hard to believe. That said, although many would love a long discussion / argument about it here. For personal reasons I am not going to say more here today than I already have.
  - djkivi 4y ago
    Why not tie them together? :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
r721 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory

5 points by grANDr 4y ago

ninethirty 4y ago

The shroud proves he was real.

throwawaysalome 4y ago

That you would even brook doubt is an offense to my people.

grANDr 4y ago
No offense, I don't want to offense anyone. It is personal, if you can help please contribute.

hcrisp 4y ago

Why do you ask? I would consider the evidence first and then form an opinion.

grANDr 4y ago
Because I doubt
- grANDr 4y ago
  From my heart, I doubt Messiah and every other kind of fictions, why all of them happened in the past?
  - hcrisp 4y ago
    "To believe with certainty we must begin by doubting." You would have company in that position. But to remain forever in doubt is to waver between belief and unbelief. To which do you tend?

mindcrime 4y ago

I think it's possible that some guy from Galilee lived and was crucified and all that, yeah. But the bit about being the "son of God" and rising from the tomb and all that? No, absolutely not. Complete and utter bollocks as far as I'm concerned.

grANDr 4y ago
And what is your opinion about divinity?
- mindcrime 4y ago
  Don't believe in it.
grANDr 4y ago
I mean, Do you think is there any messenger from God?
- mindcrime 4y ago
  No, because I don't think that there is any "God" for there to be messengers from in the first place.

Hermandw 4y ago

Why do you ask that question on HN of all forums? Yes, personally I believe He was real, and all that implies. The whole story is too complicated and fantastic to be fictional.

grANDr 4y ago
So please help me to believe
- Hermandw 4y ago
  My email is on my HN profile.
theamk 4y ago
> story is too complicated and fantastic to be fictional. I feel you should read some nice science fiction.. Azimov is a good start. His stories are both much more complicated as well as fantastic than bible.
- Hermandw 4y ago
  I have read a LOT of sci-fi, including loads of Asimov. None of his characters are proven historical characters like Jesus. What most people find hard to believe is his claim to be God, his death, resurrection, ascension etc. I'm saying that I do believe those. Saying that all of that is fiction... I really find that hard to believe. That said, although many would love a long discussion / argument about it here. For personal reasons I am not going to say more here today than I already have.
- djkivi 4y ago
  Why not tie them together? :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible

r721 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory