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I had a Hyundai car for over 10 years. It's a good car but my impression of it is that Hyundai knows exactly where to cut cost and substitutes just-good-enough
by guardiangod 4y ago
I had a Hyundai car for over 10 years. It's a good car but my impression of it is that Hyundai knows exactly where to cut cost and substitutes just-good-enough parts. The car had many features over its competitors, but under the hood it's easy to see that the engineering focused on cost (reduction) over longevity. Why should a part last 400k when 200k is sufficient?
So I am not surprised to see a new car made in the 2010s can still be sold without a mobilizer.
- kube-system 4y agoYeah, literally nobody goes to a car lot, looks at the window sticker, and says "ooh immobilizer, we gotta get this one!" and Hyundai/Kia know it.
- adrianmonk 4y agoSome car buying guides do advise getting insurance quotes before you buy. Theoretically, the risk should be reflected, so it should incentivize immobilizers. But if few people actually do it, then it weakens the incentive a lot. Also, there are dozens of competing factors that weigh into a car-buying decision, so that dilutes the impact too.
- x0x0 4y agoI wonder if this qualifies for a return under the California lemon law. Uninsurability w/o a $250 part?
- kube-system 4y agoI highly doubt insurability is warranted. And definitely not insurability with one particular insurance company.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago>Why should a part last 400k when 200k is sufficient? Because the 400k car costs 10% more to make but white collar types who will inevitably trade them in after 3/36 will pay 30% more for them so they can brag to their coworkers about how responsible they are by buying a reliable new car. There's two and a half brands that run on this model.
- guardiangod 4y ago>Because the 400k car costs 10% more to make I grew up in a Toyota household, and before the Hyundai I drove a Toyota. The prices for the 2 cars are the same (in fact the Toyota was a bit cheaper after inflation), but the Hyundai had more modern features. The part/design quality for Toyota and Hyundai were especially apparent because of my experience. I still like the Hyundai though- it never had any major malfunction so Hyundai had put effort into its drive train.
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- giarc 4y agoThey tend to cut corners when they can. Some current models are catching fire and I believe the suspected source is they put smaller gauge wires on the trailer harness and this is resulting in fires. It's not just "the vinyl on the dash is lower quality", it's actually safety issues. There should be legal consequences.