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The higher educated white collar class is coming to terms with the fact they are just as disposable as the rest of us.

boringg 4y ago
Which class do you relate to and as a function of which type of job?
ilostmyshoes 4y ago
We are all workers, we are the working class whether we are educated or not. The capital owners want the working class to fight amongst themselves because it allows them to continue enriching themselves off the backs of the working class. Even if you own some stocks or have a 401k, if you depend on a salary to pay your bills then you are a worker
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- iso1631 4y ago
  It annoys me in the UK how people claim that "Tommy who 'does up houses' and flips them or rents them out" is a "working class builder", where as Billy isn't working class because he types on a keyboard. In the UK working people, especially those earning above minimum wage, are taxed far more than the capitalists of the world like Tommy who can structure his income to pay just 30% marginal taxes rather than 60% plus.
  - ilostmyshoes 4y ago
    Honestly it's the same in the US. But unfortunately the ones who fund the political campaigns are usually the ones with the lower tax rate, so that doesn't change.
- skee8383 4y ago
  Actually there are different levels of working class. A guy earning $18k per year working in retail isn't exactly in the same boat as the manager of the store making $80k a year.
  - ilostmyshoes 4y ago
    That was a story made up by capital owners to keep the working class fighting amongst itself. The reality is that anyone who works for a wage is being taken advantage of
    - mrep 4y ago
      I have > 500k net worth which using the 4% rule gives me 20k a year but I still work. Am I a capitol owner or working class?
      - ilostmyshoes 4y ago
        If you can quit your job and live purely off your investments then you are a capital owner, if you cannot do that without adjusting your lifestyle you're working class
    - skee8383 4y ago
      It's called being middle class. middle class != working class, But i don't expect you to be able to see through the decades of propaganda.
      - ilostmyshoes 4y ago
        Again, middle class is a concept invented by capital owners to keep the working class fighting amongst themselves. If you depend on a wage to survive, you are a worker Working class is defined as those who must sell their labor in order to survive. If you cannot live off income of your investments alone and must work for a salary then you are a worker, you are working class
      - randomdata 4y ago
rvz 4y ago
Exactly. Since reality has now hit them in the face after the VC fuelled tech bubble utopia that finally popped with the cheap money disappearing afterwards. So what of the conditioning of employees by telling them: 'We're all a family', 'Sticking together in the long term!' and 'Everyone wins, yay!'. I don't think 'families' do abrupt layoffs en mass to their own in the morning. The era of cruising on cheap money is over. It is time to learn to adapt with AI.
refurb 4y ago
Everyone is disposable all the way up to the CEO.

Which class do you relate to and as a function of which type of job?

We are all workers, we are the working class whether we are educated or not. The capital owners want the working class to fight amongst themselves because it allows them to continue enriching themselves off the backs of the working class. Even if you own some stocks or have a 401k, if you depend on a salary to pay your bills then you are a worker

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iso1631 4y ago
It annoys me in the UK how people claim that "Tommy who 'does up houses' and flips them or rents them out" is a "working class builder", where as Billy isn't working class because he types on a keyboard. In the UK working people, especially those earning above minimum wage, are taxed far more than the capitalists of the world like Tommy who can structure his income to pay just 30% marginal taxes rather than 60% plus.
- ilostmyshoes 4y ago
  Honestly it's the same in the US. But unfortunately the ones who fund the political campaigns are usually the ones with the lower tax rate, so that doesn't change.
skee8383 4y ago
Actually there are different levels of working class. A guy earning $18k per year working in retail isn't exactly in the same boat as the manager of the store making $80k a year.
- ilostmyshoes 4y ago
  That was a story made up by capital owners to keep the working class fighting amongst itself. The reality is that anyone who works for a wage is being taken advantage of
  - mrep 4y ago
    I have > 500k net worth which using the 4% rule gives me 20k a year but I still work. Am I a capitol owner or working class?
    - ilostmyshoes 4y ago
      If you can quit your job and live purely off your investments then you are a capital owner, if you cannot do that without adjusting your lifestyle you're working class
  - skee8383 4y ago
    It's called being middle class. middle class != working class, But i don't expect you to be able to see through the decades of propaganda.
    - ilostmyshoes 4y ago
      Again, middle class is a concept invented by capital owners to keep the working class fighting amongst themselves. If you depend on a wage to survive, you are a worker Working class is defined as those who must sell their labor in order to survive. If you cannot live off income of your investments alone and must work for a salary then you are a worker, you are working class
    - randomdata 4y ago

rvz 4y ago

Exactly. Since reality has now hit them in the face after the VC fuelled tech bubble utopia that finally popped with the cheap money disappearing afterwards. So what of the conditioning of employees by telling them: 'We're all a family', 'Sticking together in the long term!' and 'Everyone wins, yay!'. I don't think 'families' do abrupt layoffs en mass to their own in the morning. The era of cruising on cheap money is over. It is time to learn to adapt with AI.

refurb 4y ago

Everyone is disposable all the way up to the CEO.