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I just use the term "crypto bro" broadly to refer to anyone who benefits, directly or indirectly, from cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and things like that. I do consc

I just use the term "crypto bro" broadly to refer to anyone who benefits, directly or indirectly, from cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and things like that. I do consciously choose a term that expresses the fact that I have a negative attitude towards those things as I believe that they're not "honest money". Taking Google-money means taking money that's earned through surveillance capitalism and anticompetitive tactics deployed by a monopolist that erode our free markets. Taking crypto-money means taking money earned through "greater fool theory" of valuations of investable assets. People, on the whole, are never all-good or all-bad. When I see somebody showing off their good sides, I instinctively start looking for the bad. When I see somebody owning up to their bad side, I instinctively start looking for the good. The good in this person is that he does open source. But that doesn't make him an angel. The bad in this person is that he's a top earner in part because he takes money that causes bad things to happen in the economy. As to his personality, I simply have no information on that and have never met him.

robertlagrant 4y ago
> I do consciously choose a term that expresses the fact that I have a negative attitude towards those things as I believe that they're not "honest money". The fact that "bro" is a derogatory term for you is also not great.
Grimburger 4y ago
> to refer to anyone who benefits, directly or indirectly, from cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and things like that You don't? There's a massive difference between "hey this signature scheme is safe, trust me I'm a cryptographer, all my colleagues agree" and "hey this signature scheme is safe because if anyone can break it they can steal over $1,000,000,000 USD anonymously"
jossclimb 4y ago
> I just use the term "crypto bro" broadly to refer to anyone who benefits, directly or indirectly, from cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and things like that Which he does not do. He develops cryptographic libraries (used to encrypt files, network connections and the like). Nothing to do with cryptocurrency at all, save some cryptocurrencies might use the library he writes, but most of the use will be for TLS connections, file encryption etc.
- stakhanov 4y ago
  The article mentions "Filecoin", whatever that is.
  - some_furry 4y ago
    It mentions it as one of the well-known outputs of a company he consults for. I am confident that he is not working on a cryptocurrency at all. If your definition of "crypto bro" is so broad to include "receives money from any person or company that has ever incidentally done anything with cryptocurrency" you've basically painted the entire industry that way. Just because it mentions "Filecoin, whatever that is" doesn't imply that he's working in cryptocurrency. I use "crypto bro" to describe people who actively work/invest in cryptocurrency directly and/or evangelize it. This usage does not intersect with Filippo at all.
    - nileshtrivedi 4y ago
      > any person or company that has ever incidentally done anything with cryptocurrency But Filecoin IS a cryptocurrency. It's not merely "incidental".
      - robertlagrant 4y ago
        Of course it is. Cryptography libraries can be used for lots of things. If one of his clients uses them for cryptocurrency, it is incidental.
        goodpoint 4y ago
        Look again at the logos prominently displayed in the blog post. There's nothing incidental here and you don't get to make that kind of money otherwise...
        robertlagrant 4y ago
        That still doesn't make him a "crypto bro", any more than those companies using cloud providers makes the cloud providers cryptocurrency specific. They require stuff that's pretty universally applicable. Or change my mind and show me which of his projects is cryptocurrency-specific.
bertman 4y ago
>When I see somebody showing off their good sides, I instinctively start looking for the bad. Fair enough, no reason to denounce him as "crypto bro", though, because you know full well what it insinuates. Also: >Google-money [...] surveillance capitalism The email domain from your profile points to 180.136.102.34.bc.googleusercontent.com ... Just saying, you know.

robertlagrant 4y ago

> I do consciously choose a term that expresses the fact that I have a negative attitude towards those things as I believe that they're not "honest money". The fact that "bro" is a derogatory term for you is also not great.

Grimburger 4y ago

> to refer to anyone who benefits, directly or indirectly, from cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and things like that You don't? There's a massive difference between "hey this signature scheme is safe, trust me I'm a cryptographer, all my colleagues agree" and "hey this signature scheme is safe because if anyone can break it they can steal over $1,000,000,000 USD anonymously"

jossclimb 4y ago

> I just use the term "crypto bro" broadly to refer to anyone who benefits, directly or indirectly, from cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and things like that Which he does not do. He develops cryptographic libraries (used to encrypt files, network connections and the like). Nothing to do with cryptocurrency at all, save some cryptocurrencies might use the library he writes, but most of the use will be for TLS connections, file encryption etc.

stakhanov 4y ago
The article mentions "Filecoin", whatever that is.
- some_furry 4y ago
  It mentions it as one of the well-known outputs of a company he consults for. I am confident that he is not working on a cryptocurrency at all. If your definition of "crypto bro" is so broad to include "receives money from any person or company that has ever incidentally done anything with cryptocurrency" you've basically painted the entire industry that way. Just because it mentions "Filecoin, whatever that is" doesn't imply that he's working in cryptocurrency. I use "crypto bro" to describe people who actively work/invest in cryptocurrency directly and/or evangelize it. This usage does not intersect with Filippo at all.
  - nileshtrivedi 4y ago
    > any person or company that has ever incidentally done anything with cryptocurrency But Filecoin IS a cryptocurrency. It's not merely "incidental".
    - robertlagrant 4y ago
      Of course it is. Cryptography libraries can be used for lots of things. If one of his clients uses them for cryptocurrency, it is incidental.
      - goodpoint 4y ago
        Look again at the logos prominently displayed in the blog post. There's nothing incidental here and you don't get to make that kind of money otherwise...
        robertlagrant 4y ago
        That still doesn't make him a "crypto bro", any more than those companies using cloud providers makes the cloud providers cryptocurrency specific. They require stuff that's pretty universally applicable. Or change my mind and show me which of his projects is cryptocurrency-specific.

bertman 4y ago

>When I see somebody showing off their good sides, I instinctively start looking for the bad. Fair enough, no reason to denounce him as "crypto bro", though, because you know full well what it insinuates. Also: >Google-money [...] surveillance capitalism The email domain from your profile points to 180.136.102.34.bc.googleusercontent.com ... Just saying, you know.