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> I was laid off from Google. I keep seeing posts from people who, I have to assume, just figured out how the world works and want to teach us. Guys, seriously,

> I was laid off from Google. I keep seeing posts from people who, I have to assume, just figured out how the world works and want to teach us. Guys, seriously, who didn't already know this? Hard agree on this. Did this employee expect Sergey Brin to call over to his desk with flowers and a hamper of fancy goods, and lament their loss? A few friends of mine were let go last month in a tech company in Portland, and similar thing, automated email followed by people openly weeping at desks. It's never a pleasant thing I know, but I suspect they bought too much into their company's "culture" declarations of being at one with the universe and loving everyone etc. etc.

jossclimb 4y ago
I always cringe and pull people up when they refer to work / teammates as family. We are all a family here at 'wootsie'. NO! Family means you will stick by people no matter what. Your Brother is an ass, he stole your PS5 to score some fentanyl, he is still your brother, you're frustrated with him, but he will always be family. That is a very different loyalty to the people you work with. Fuck up and they will drop you like a hot rock.
- toyg 4y ago
  Tbh, i don't even agree with that view of family. You give people more chances, but chances do run out. Don't let yourself be abused by bad people just because you shared a few years of your life.
  - jossclimb 4y ago
    I never said you cannot cut them out of your life until they amend their behavior (tough love), but you very rarely likely to completely disown them 'not my brother', especially if they redeem their flaws. Nothing like that will ever play out with a work colleague.
mihaaly 4y ago
Probably the type of people building up something viable for years (popular expression I heard: raise their children), with years of work and commitment, then operate it and improve when necessary - keeping alive in hard times - without overgrowth is not extinct yet. In those companies laying off is a hardship, not as easy as changing a component to a newer one in a machine, quite the opposite. Older the component the harder it is. Almost inevitably these are small or medium places where people know each other's culture (not by adopting it from some pompous policy document or pretentious HR event). For those having the opportunity working for such groups long the world works differently.

jossclimb 4y ago

I always cringe and pull people up when they refer to work / teammates as family. We are all a family here at 'wootsie'. NO! Family means you will stick by people no matter what. Your Brother is an ass, he stole your PS5 to score some fentanyl, he is still your brother, you're frustrated with him, but he will always be family. That is a very different loyalty to the people you work with. Fuck up and they will drop you like a hot rock.

toyg 4y ago
Tbh, i don't even agree with that view of family. You give people more chances, but chances do run out. Don't let yourself be abused by bad people just because you shared a few years of your life.
- jossclimb 4y ago
  I never said you cannot cut them out of your life until they amend their behavior (tough love), but you very rarely likely to completely disown them 'not my brother', especially if they redeem their flaws. Nothing like that will ever play out with a work colleague.

mihaaly 4y ago

Probably the type of people building up something viable for years (popular expression I heard: raise their children), with years of work and commitment, then operate it and improve when necessary - keeping alive in hard times - without overgrowth is not extinct yet. In those companies laying off is a hardship, not as easy as changing a component to a newer one in a machine, quite the opposite. Older the component the harder it is. Almost inevitably these are small or medium places where people know each other's culture (not by adopting it from some pompous policy document or pretentious HR event). For those having the opportunity working for such groups long the world works differently.