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Is Hacker News secretly funded by J. K. Rowling? Was there a singular precipitating event that got trans folks pissed at HN? Is it a series of factors that I'd

Is Hacker News secretly funded by J. K. Rowling? Was there a singular precipitating event that got trans folks pissed at HN? Is it a series of factors that I'd have to sift through millions of comments to understand??

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
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- satellites 4y ago
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  - deadbeeves 4y ago
    This sounds like a reason to not like the Internet. You can read comments like this on just about any open forum. And it's perfectly fine to not like that, but that doesn't mean you get to dictate whether other people can talk about what you publish. If one doesn't like one doesn't have to read it.
    - ponchodeli 4y ago
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      - deadbeeves 4y ago
        >They are dictating what can happen on HN about as much as you are dictating what they can post on their twitter. Hardly. I never said, "Foone mustn't say X on Twitter", or even "they should not say X on Twitter". The latest post actually contains the phrase "NEVER POST ME ON YOUR SITE EVER AGAIN." I'm not even gonna say that they should not make this demand, I just find it pretty funny that they think anyone is going to respect it.
  - P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
    I meant Foone Turing specifically. No comment on the correlation between mental illness and trans.
- dang 4y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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deadbeeves 4y ago
It's fascinating. From what I've seen, OP's problem stems from: * They post something. Someone links to the post here. Someone makes a comment here to the effect of "I think this about what he said". Someone else replies with "actually, it's 'they'". Shitstorm. Therefore, HN is populated primarily by transphobes. * They post something on Twitter. Someone links to the tweet here. Someone comments on how they wish it was a blog rather than a series of tweets. Apparently the author feels personally attacked by such comments. * They post something. Someone links to the post here. A Twitter bot tweets the article from here and @s them, therefore they have to keep blocking those bot accounts, and this is apparently HN's fault. What I find fascinating is that, other than the bots thing, which is now irrelevant because apparently they don't use Twitter anymore, whether someone links to a post of theirs here or not has no effect on them unless they decide to come here and read what people say about it. It's an unusual case of extreme fragility and seemingly wishing to be punished. "Ow! The fire burns me! I should be able to stick my hand in the fire without being burned!" EDIT: Relevant Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1440375176604966924?s=20 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1440375176604966924?s=20
- NautilusWave 4y ago
  I need to pay more attention; the anti-HN post edits happened often enough I assumed there was a broader trend beyond a single author.
  - deadbeeves 4y ago
    Hm... Would you mind expanding on what you mean?
    - NautilusWave 4y ago
      I thought there were a number of trans authors who acted negatively towards being posted on HN, but it seems to be primarily one.
rocket_surgeron 4y ago
> Is Hacker News secretly funded by J. K. Rowling? Your comment will likely be nuked because HN posters and admins hide behind a thin veneer of faux-civility and a cognitive dissonance where both information wants to be free and also you're not allowed to point out that the vast majority of posters are bigoted morons. (because "politeness") They tend to be like the libertarians who are only libertarian because they think it excuses their bigotry and shields it from criticism (or even examination) who then shed their ideals like a molting snake whenever it suits them. So yeah, pretty much. JK Rowling is an individual who got very lucky by being at the right place at the right time who now thinks they are smarter than everyone else.

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago

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satellites 4y ago
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- deadbeeves 4y ago
  This sounds like a reason to not like the Internet. You can read comments like this on just about any open forum. And it's perfectly fine to not like that, but that doesn't mean you get to dictate whether other people can talk about what you publish. If one doesn't like one doesn't have to read it.
  - ponchodeli 4y ago
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    - deadbeeves 4y ago
      >They are dictating what can happen on HN about as much as you are dictating what they can post on their twitter. Hardly. I never said, "Foone mustn't say X on Twitter", or even "they should not say X on Twitter". The latest post actually contains the phrase "NEVER POST ME ON YOUR SITE EVER AGAIN." I'm not even gonna say that they should not make this demand, I just find it pretty funny that they think anyone is going to respect it.
- P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul 4y ago
  I meant Foone Turing specifically. No comment on the correlation between mental illness and trans.
dang 4y ago
We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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deadbeeves 4y ago

It's fascinating. From what I've seen, OP's problem stems from: * They post something. Someone links to the post here. Someone makes a comment here to the effect of "I think this about what he said". Someone else replies with "actually, it's 'they'". Shitstorm. Therefore, HN is populated primarily by transphobes. * They post something on Twitter. Someone links to the tweet here. Someone comments on how they wish it was a blog rather than a series of tweets. Apparently the author feels personally attacked by such comments. * They post something. Someone links to the post here. A Twitter bot tweets the article from here and @s them, therefore they have to keep blocking those bot accounts, and this is apparently HN's fault. What I find fascinating is that, other than the bots thing, which is now irrelevant because apparently they don't use Twitter anymore, whether someone links to a post of theirs here or not has no effect on them unless they decide to come here and read what people say about it. It's an unusual case of extreme fragility and seemingly wishing to be punished. "Ow! The fire burns me! I should be able to stick my hand in the fire without being burned!" EDIT: Relevant Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1440375176604966924?s=20 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1440375176604966924?s=20

NautilusWave 4y ago
I need to pay more attention; the anti-HN post edits happened often enough I assumed there was a broader trend beyond a single author.
- deadbeeves 4y ago
  Hm... Would you mind expanding on what you mean?
  - NautilusWave 4y ago
    I thought there were a number of trans authors who acted negatively towards being posted on HN, but it seems to be primarily one.

rocket_surgeron 4y ago

> Is Hacker News secretly funded by J. K. Rowling? Your comment will likely be nuked because HN posters and admins hide behind a thin veneer of faux-civility and a cognitive dissonance where both information wants to be free and also you're not allowed to point out that the vast majority of posters are bigoted morons. (because "politeness") They tend to be like the libertarians who are only libertarian because they think it excuses their bigotry and shields it from criticism (or even examination) who then shed their ideals like a molting snake whenever it suits them. So yeah, pretty much. JK Rowling is an individual who got very lucky by being at the right place at the right time who now thinks they are smarter than everyone else.