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Probably not, but also my personal experience says that you can't really replicate things just always from the patent. There's always some secret sauce to get t
by alsodumb 4y ago
Probably not, but also my personal experience says that you can't really replicate things just always from the patent. There's always some secret sauce to get things to work. The question is what exactly did Loon sell when they shut down and where did most of the people working on it end up? I know some folks at Loon and they went back to either Google Brain or some other moonshots in Google or Google Research but a lot of people didn't do that.
- c_o_n_v_e_x 4y agoIf you need secret sauce to get things to work, you can have the patent invalidated.
- JPLeRouzic 4y agoTell that to the pharmaceutical industry. Many pharmaceutical patents can't be reproduced without insider knowledge as discovered companies that entered the "generic" business. https://dlj.law.duke.edu/article/patent-laws-reproducibility-paradox-sherkow-vol66-iss4/ https://dlj.law.duke.edu/article/patent-laws-reproducibility...
- AlbertCory 4y agoYou're very wrong about that. What you're talking about is called a 112 rejection. Section 112 has to do with "written description," "enablement," and "best mode." Getting a patent invalidated after it's issued can't be done on 112 grounds. It's done based on anticipation and obviousness (prior art, basically).
- c_o_n_v_e_x 4y agoI was referring to how things work in my non-US locale, unclear patent specifications are grounds for having a patent revoked.
- AlbertCory 4y agoWhich country is that?
- c_o_n_v_e_x 4y agoSingapore
- AlbertCory 4y agoOK. I don't know how common it is to have a Singaporean patent.
- AlbertCory 4y agoLawyers who worked in chemical and medical patents confirmed this for me when I was in Google Legal. Don't even get me started about software patents. The legal fiction is that a "reasonable amount of experimentation" may be required, beyond what's in the patent. The notion is that a lab tech determines the exact concentrations, temps, and pressure to get the thing to work. Of course this is abused.